At 4:49 AM 09/19/02, Dennis W. Manasco wrote:

>That is the most absurd part of the problem: That an "error in
>judgement" in manipulating lyrics can cause (seemingly) irreparable
>damage to your file. A database that allows itself to be
>irretrievably corrupted through reasonable user actions is a pretty
>fragile database.

True, but just to clarify, when we say "corrupted", what we mean is that
the Finale interface makes it very easy to mess with the data in ways that
you probably don't really want to. I agree that that's a bad thing that
needs to be fixed, but it shouldn't be mistaken for an assertion that
Finale actually fouls up the data on its own. No, it just makes it very
easy for the user to make unintended errors in the data.

>1.    Irreparable corruption of a database is a bad thing. If the
>lyrics database can be corrupted this easily, how easily can other
>program databases be corrupted?

There is no related threat to the other program databases.  The
"corruption" is a flaw in the interface allowing you to manipulate the
data, not in the database itself.

>That's the feeling I've always had when I've been forced to work with
>lyrics in Finale. Maybe I need a copy of "Finale Lyrics for
>Imbeciles," but _every_ time I have had to use them some nasty
>"program behavior" has reached up to bite me.

MDL's "FINALE LYRICS FOR IMBECILES"

"1. The first triangle affects the entire verse. The second triangle
affects only the one staff throughout the piece.  The third triangle
affects only the one staff for only the one system.  Don't use the fourth
triangle.

"2. If you use Mass Copy on a passage that includes lyrics, and you don't
want the lyrics to be exactly the same in the new copy, use Clear
Items->Lyrics to remove them all.

"3. Never use Type-in-Score. Type your lyrics in the Edit Lyrics box, and
enter them in the music using Click Assignment. (If you don't know how
Click Assignment works, read the manual.) If you need to delete a lyric, do
it from Adjust Syllables, not from Type in Score.

"4. In the Edit Lyrics box, never delete anything, and never insert
anything. If stuff is extraneous, just leave it there and ignore it. If you
need to add more, append it to the end (or start fresh in a new verse.) If
you need to change individual syllables, be sure that you don't add or
subtract any spaces, hyphens, or carriage returns."

Did I miss anything?

mdl


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