On 2002/10/14 03:42 AM or thereabouts, Michael Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> intoned:
> [Darcy James Argue:] > >> Again, this problem is easily avoided by using octave-transposing clefs for >> octave-transposing instruments. > > Are they those treble or bass clefs sometimes found in more recent scores > which have a little "8" respectively above or below them, to indicate an > octave transposition? Yes. > (Do you ever find treble clefs with a "15" above them?) I recently made a custom 15ma treble clef specifically for glockenspiel. (It required negotiation of the nasty "nonstandard key signature" dialog to get the accidentals in the key signature to display correctly.) > But... > > [Christopher B. J. Smith:] > >> But that brings up another problem, which is that those instruments >> do not read with octave clefs, but in ordinary treble clefs and bass >> clefs. > > ... this seems to indicate otherwise - that the octave clefs are something > quite *different* from treble or bass clefs. I think you misunderstood what Chris meant. He was saying that the use of, say, an 8vb bass clef on a contrabassoon *part* might confuse the player, who is used to reading a plain vanilla bass clef, and having his instrument do the transposing for him. He might look at the 8vb bass clef, and reasonably assume that the composer wanted him to play the notes an octave below where they are written, which would of course sound an octave below *that* (i.e., an octave too low). The simple solution is to use octave-transposing clefs in the (concert pitch) score only -- this is done to avoid the ambiguity that sometimes results when dealing with octave-transposing instruments in a concert pitch score -- and regular treble and bass clefs in the parts. However, I believe that octave-transposing clefs are becoming more common even in transposed scores, and sometimes even in the instrumental parts. For instance, nowadays I sometimes see the 8vb treble clef used in guitar music. - Darcy ------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston, MA _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
