Dennis, I'm new around this list and not familiar with your work, so forgive
me for wondering if I've innocently stepped into an argument in progress?

The proportion of composers whose music is not accepted by us is very highly
proportionally male composers too; you might also notice that we published
Shulamit Ran and Melinda Wagner and Chen Yi and Ellen Zwilich long before
they were famous because we believed in them, and that our rather sparse new
home page flaunts the release of Hildegard von Bingen's large Ordo Virtutum,
and that Hildegard Publishing Company has now joined forces with us - which
as you know is the world's largest publishing company devoted to women
composers. Likewise we more recently began publishing Stacy Garrop and Amy
Scurria still in their 20's, and Julia Scott Carey when she was 16. We
started working with them because they are good composers, that is, for the
musical reason to publish their music.

We don't evaluate composers based on whether they have radical notation -
very few composers do these days, and that would be a silly way to decide
important things; after all, Peters simply photographed Crumb's beautiful
manuscripts. I'm wondering whether alternative notation is a specialty of
yours, and I'd love to see it and learn how you get Finale to do radically
alternative notation.

I also sense having walked into a previous argument with someone else when
you suggest composers caved about notation. That's not at all how I work
with them.

Richard Wernick likes indicating a 5-beat note by putting a rhythmic dot
*before and after* a whole note, and so on for smaller values, and that's
fine as a personal kind of exception and an example of the kind of elements
that some composers do differently on purpose. We love and embrace this,
when it has usefulness and significance. The kinds of things I'm talking
about composers allowing us to standardize are conventions like slurs going
over a whole tie rather than going just to the beginning of it, as some
composers do in manuscript, or carelessly spelling a phrase with sharps in
one measure and the same music in flats in the next.  With more quirky
composers like Shapey, we had a lot of good conversations about whether to
use accidentals on every note including repeating pitches, or how to write
out tuplets whose duration splits over a barline. And then there's piano
notation where many composers have varying ideas about how hand division
should be shown on two staves, and to what extent pedalled notes should be
shown through ties in following measures.  The process here is to go from
what the composer writes down hastily making a deadline and eager to get to
the next piece, to what the composer agrees is the best way for performers
to read it. Composers love this because they always have the final say, and
they get the benefit of a 2nd eye and critical thinking. (By the way, Shapey
was not only strictly twelve-tone, but he used the same row in every piece
for the last 20+ years of his life, and he wrote "(sic)" in the published
editions whenever he needed a pitch to violate the row.)

Dennis, I think I was being a constructive contributor to the dialog about
composers and house styles, by sharing how one known publisher works
shoulder-to-shoulder with composers to get results they like better than
their original draft.  That seems valuable to the Finale-list dialog and I
hope it is interesting to many people who wonder about these things.

Sincerely,
Daniel Dorff
Theodore Presser Company

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