>>Scores created with the Setup Wizard don't use instrument assignments 
that work on our school computers. I don't know the reason for this, 
as I am a Mac type and can't delve into the inner workings of PCs.<<

Ah. I see. The patches that staves use in the setup wizard is controlled by
the instrument.txt file (on both platforms). We use general MIDI patch
numbers starting at 0 by default--that works most of the time-- (ie patch 0
is piano, etc), so if you're using a proteus or something else that doesn't
necessarily use the GM patch numbers all the time, you'll have to make
adjustments to instrument.txt and then put that on your computers. Not sure
how we could improve on that, but suggestions to winsupport/macsupport are
always welcome ;-).

For your other changes, I'd suggest sending that bit of it along to support
to get added into the feature request bin (if you haven't already). Be sure
to include what you changed things to, that way we don't have to try to hunt
you down later...

Hope this helps.

Allen



-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher BJ Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Fisher, Allen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Finale] New Finale release


At 9:13 AM -0500 6/09/03, Fisher, Allen wrote:
>Christopher Saith:
>
>"If Coda could supply more usable default files to start with..."
>
>The default files got much improved in Finale 2003.


They most certainly did, and I acknowledged that, and we discussed it 
somewhat on the List. There is definite room for improvement still. 
Don't get me wrong, Finale is the single biggest improvement in my 
productivity since I learned how to play piano, but I have to teach 
it now, and there are some frustrating aspects to the program "out of 
the box". Improving those I think would greatly help Finale's 
marketability to schools.


>"For example, almost everything in Sibelius plays back out correctly of the
>box. To
>set up Finale so that everything plays back in the same way is a week's
>work."
>
>I'm not sure I follow. Could you be a bit more specific?


Scores created with the Setup Wizard don't use instrument assignments 
that work on our school computers. I don't know the reason for this, 
as I am a Mac type and can't delve into the inner workings of PCs. I 
have long since edited the one I use at home on my Mac, a few items 
at a time, (and have failed with the drum staves, I can't get 2003 to 
do things that worked OK in 2002. I'm sure it's pilot error, but I 
don't have time to muddle it out.)

Jazz chords are a complete mess. There was a much-improved library 
included in recent versions, but there are still many missing symbols 
and non-standard configurations, and to match these default ones, I 
have to make EVERY element a different font and point size, and 
manually adjust every one!

In the JazzCord font there are many non-standard chord symbols, many 
others are missing (and I'm sure you are aware how fussy the chord 
suffix editor is with the JazzFont, and no magnification available in 
the edit window! Argh!) and they play back very oddly. Type Into 
Score doesn't work in the same way with the JazzCord suffixes, unless 
you create new ones with individual elements (like the new library), 
which is a huge pain. Rich Sigler seems to be the one responsible, 
but he doesn't respond to emails, and doesn't seem to want to alter 
anything about the font at all. Darcy Argue and jef chippewa made a 
version of the JazzCord font that contains some more usable symbols 
(like smaller alterations and taller parentheses) but that means that 
ALL my students have to find that special font to get my chord 
suffixes to appear correctly.

Once again, I have altered MY chords, more or less to my liking, but 
am still making changes, and when I ask my students to spell altered 
dominants with a b13 instead of a #5, they find it very hard to do 
easily.


>
>BTW, I asked all of you for input into this area last year...While I got a
>few good suggestions, I mostly got flamed. ;-)


I would like to make some suggestions, but I don't even KNOW 
everything I have altered in my JAzzFont default file over the years. 
I know I have (notably)

increased line thicknesses to .014 inches from .008 (in many 
different dialogue boxes! and I always seem to miss some),

altered the height and placement of repeat boxes,

removed the C) time sig abbreviation and replaced it with the C 
without the curved slash, because the slash collides with the first 
note,

I have increased the size of the numerals in the time signature,

  I have changed articulation default placements (many!),

I have edited Slash Notation and Rhyhtmic Notation to let notes and 
attached items in other layers show (ESSENTIAL!),

I have changed numerous default fonts, mostly because JazzText is so 
illegible at small sizes,

I have changed the default placement of measure numbers to BELOW the 
staff (standard in jazz and show music)

I have increased the size of the boxed rehearsal letters by a couple of
points,

I have altered the Drum Map to automatically show cymbals as X heads, 
and not as circled X heads, while the half note X head is corrected 
to be a diamond,

I have changed the margins in Part Extraction page size so that the 
left margin is the same size as the right (why is it 1 inch when all 
others are a half-inch?),

I have turned off Space Systems Evenly, which ALWAYS looks weirder 
than not using it,

I have added Custom Smart Shape lines which included Fill..... 
Even..... Double X Feel..... Swing..... Solo......, (Great new 
feature, by the way!)

I have removed the Gliss text from the glissando marking,

I have added MANY text espression that are commonly used and 
difficult to create in JazzText with the enclosures (but I haven't 
had time to make them all play back correctly!) including DS, DC, To 
Coda, and the associated signs (which move around incomprehensibly 
when I use the ones in the Repeat Tool)

Whew.

That's a start. I'll get back to you when I find some others.

The two biggest problems I deal with the most with my students (after 
altering the default file) are:

1) getting them to use the right tool to get text into the score. The 
Text Tool, the expression tool, the repeat tool, the chord tool, the 
lyric tool, they find them all very confusing, especially the 
expression tool. I love it (especially the context-sensitive staff or 
measure attachement option and the staff lists) but they find it hard 
to deal with. The only thing <I> would like is the ability to use my 
staff lists with Metatools.

2) Attaching two chords to a measure that only has a whole note. 
Going through the layers, and hiding items, and correcting the Blank 
Notation to let items attached to hidden notes show, is an enormous 
burden to newbies. Is there any reason why chords HAVE to be attached 
to items in the measure? Why can't they just be attached to beats? 
This would make life SO much easier, you can't imagine. It takes me 
as long to show them how to do this as it does to show Speedy Entry 
complete.

Thanks for asking.

Christopher
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