At 10:08 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Crystal Premo wrote: >I can be very loose about who I consider a musician, but I think >it really splits some hairs to call a playback device an instrument.
Please post an audio file of your turntable performance. :) >I just can't get my head around that concept. Don't try to get your head around it. Listen to it first. A lot of things sound bogus in concept. >the music has already been created by the >time he gets there. No ... the *sounds* have been created, as with any sampling method, not the music. In turntabling, very *small* pieces are used, rocked, scratched, played backward and forward, to create new patterns not found at all in the original, and architectures never conceived by the maker of the original sounds. Like any instrument, it's just a source of raw materials to compose with. The whole 50 years of sampling creations have met dismissal in some quarters. Live sampling is the latest to be dismissed. Seriously, though, assuming you can't get to a performance, what would help you? Consider that the new generation of live sampling technology uses MP3 players with shuffle/scratch/rotation features run on turntable surfaces, but not using actual vinyl (have a look at Zzounds.com for some interesting new turntabling instruments). Deejays sample and load bits & pieces of vinyl into this equipment. These newer devices approach increasingly the use of sampling on, say, an ordinary keyboard. Ordinary keyboards use pre-built samples, many taken of 'real' instruments. Does this deny the keyboard player the title of musician? If the turntablist played the same samples from a keyboard, wind controller, or Midi guitar? If the keyboardist played a turntable with 'real' instrumental samples? At one point does the turntablist/deejay cease being or start being a musician? Finally, read this enthusiast's review, the second paragraph of which shows that the culture of turntabling is pretty well developed as true musical performance: http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/131 But more than anything, listen, and if you want an experience, find a club to watch and listen. Dennis _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
