Darcy wrote,The only oddity now is that the altos and tenors both have to share an 8vb treble clef
placing tenors on an 8vb G clef did not used to be the norm; in the past, tenors were noted on a treble clef, in alto range, and transposed down the octave at sight. The use of the transposed G clef seems to be a consequence of notation software.
Dennis responded to Darcy's comment, writing:
I raised this very question not long ago and was strongly advised against using the tenor clef for an alto part.
If I remember the thread correctly, Darcy is not referring to the same tenor clef that Dennis is. I understood the earlier thread to refer to using the C clef in the alto position, whereas Darcy refers to using the G clef with the 8 vb designation.
As a tenor, I would advocate using the "nontransposed" G clef, for the altos and tenors.
ns
Ooo, I've run into bad karma on this one before, and will never repeat the experience. Altos and tenors read the treble clef differently, and will never be sure of the octave required unless they each have their own staff and clef. Altos CAN be told to read along with the tenors, but you have to be there to do it, as there is no standard way to notate this in modern music.
It's exactly the same situation as if you want cellos and basses to play a unison, but don't want to write a new staff. You will always get things in the wrong octave somewhere, so add the staff and choke back the tears.
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