On 19 Jun 2004 at 17:54, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: > At 1:55 PM -0400 6/19/04, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > >First off, why is copying so incredibly complicated? > > > >I don't see any way at all to copy from one document to another that > >will copy: > > > >1. all notes and expressions/articulations > > > >2. all smart shapes (measure- or note-attached) > > > >3. all clef changes > > > >4. tempo tool alterations > > > >Am I missing something? Indeed, I see no way at all to force copying > >of clef changes. > > Hmm, I always thought that copying to a clip file, then INSERTING the > clip file (not simply copying from the clip file) preserved everything > (including clef changes, smartshapes, key changes, etc.) except staff > lists for measure-attached expressions. I then realised that I don't > know about tempo tool alterations, as I never use them. Did you try > copying to a clip file, then INSERTING before the first bar in the > target file? You hold down the alt key then control C to copy, and > hold down the alt key then select Insert from the Edit menu.
No, I didn't try using a clip file, because I have absolutely no comprehension of why the hell there are three different methods for copying data. I began with the question: First off, why is copying so incredibly complicated? The answer is "use yet another method to get around the problem." That doesn't explain why the complications are necessary, it only illustrates the basic problem in the first place. > Hm, I just tried it. Apparently it only copies clef CHANGES; it won't > put the first part of the passage in the default clef of the staff you > copied from, but rather in the default clef of the staff you are > copying TO. Keys were copied, though. But yes, as I always knew, it > ignored my staff lists in the target file for measure-attached > expressions. It's all completely messed up, confusing and, basically, useless. Everything, absolutely everything, with no exceptions, should be copied unless I've asked for selective copying, It's one thing to copy from one staff to another within a file (where you might very well *not* want clef changes copied, though it seems to me that if the destination staff has the same clef as the source staff that you'd usually want clef changes copied), but entirely another copying from one file to another. But it seems to me that the whole mechanism is hopelessly complicated. I can't figure out how to do something very simple, just copying data from one file to another. Add to that the fact that the source of the problem was hidden data of some sort in the instrument definitions, and it's pretty clear that Finale is, overall, a complete mess. -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
