Title: Re: OT: Schencker, etc.
Dear Folks,

I guess most of you do want read my thoughts on the subject after all. So here's what I sent to Ken:
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Dear Ken,

You asked for a few thoughts. OK.

You wrote:

I have had several arguments with my Professor because I have never seen
a convincing statement from an analyst specifying what s/he thought was
the nature of the subject matter.  My main candidates are:

1)      The way the composer thought, or might have thought about the
        work;

Certainly the composer's thoughts and intentions are of utmost importance to performers and listeners - when we have them. Composers are not always forthcoming when it comes to communicating their own thoughts about their work. Sometimes they lack skill in communicating these thoughts, and sometimes they are not completely honest if they do. When we consider what the composer "might have thought," we are treading on shaky ground, albeit interesting for discussion.

All the various techniques of analysis try in their own way to communicate musical structure. I think they can be useful to performers and listeners as well as student composers. The trouble is that many (if not all) tend to be dogmatic, especially Schenker. Schachter and later scholars have expanded and tempered his pronouncements. At our own university there is plenty of discussion in the Schenker Analysis classes, and students come away with what is worthwhile rather than becoming card-carrying ideologues.

2)      The way a listener thinks, or might think about the work;

This is certainly important, but one needs to understand where these thoughts come from. Often they come from ignorance or lack of listening experience. When listeners are guided in their listening by the composer or by a competent musician (performer, scholar, teacher), their perception of the work can be enhanced greatly. As a composer I like to provide notes for the audience to give them a frame for their listening. It always seems to enhance their appreciation of my work. During our annual Oregon Bach Festival one of the ongoing events is the series of talks that Helmuth Rilling gives concerning the work that is about to be performed - usually a Bach cantata. He certainly doesn't put up diagrams on a screen, but he can give insights as to the way the piece is put together.

3)      The way a performer should think (some performers do Schenkerian
        analyses before they perform);

Anything that can help a performer to understand how a work has been constructed, what it was meant to convey, what the composer thought about it - these are worthwhile, even if they take the form of graphic analyses, as long as the performer acknowledges that the analyses are not necessarily the whole truth. The performer's own emotional reaction to the work is also important, and his or her own analytical thoughts about the piece are important. Except for electronic music, a piece of music is not a work of art until a composer creates it, a performer communicates it, and a listener hears it. All three have an important part in the life of the work.

4)      Marks on paper (in which case the process is pointless).

As you can see by the above, I do not agree with this statement. If the marks convey some of the truth about a work, they are worthwhile. It's important that a teacher is able to convey the meaning of the marks without misleading the student.

I have to go. A student is about to rimg my doorbell.

Warmest regards,

Hal
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