Hi Robert,

Thanks for the tip -- I might try to experiment with your method, although it sounds like it might also require me to adjust my staff styles library for instrument changes (woodwind doubles).

However, after eight years of this, I'm pretty used to manually transposing the chord symbols. It's not something that I tend to forget. I'm just complaining on behalf of all the newbies I meet who *don't* know about this bug, or how to fix it, or even who to complain to. I try to encourage everyone to email MacSupport, but it's hard to convince people who don't normally do that sort of thing that it will do any good. Especially when the bug has already gone so long without being fixed.

We don't have a lot of time to rehearse each chart at the BMI workshop reading sessions. Basically, you get one run-though, and that's it, on to the next one. So it's a real drag for someone to have their one take ruined by non-transposed chord symbols -- especially when the guy sitting next to them turns and says, "You know, that's not a problem in Sibelius."

I'm sure a similar scenario plays itself out in jazz arranging reading sessions all around the world.

- Darcy
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On 20 Sep 2004, at 07:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:

Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Brian,
That's precisely the problem. When you are dealing with a piece that is *not* written with a key signature (which is actually more common than not in modern jazz), you still need the chord symbols to transpose appropriately when they are attached to a transposing instrument's staff.

While I agree the problem should be fixed, and while the following workaround requires some--erm--work, here it is.


Intead of using chromatic transposition, use key signature transposition combined with independent key sigs. For example, for Eb Sax, set the transposition to Eb key transposition, set independent key sig, and change the key sig for the staff to Eb.

Now the chords transpose correctly. The downside is that you can't copy and paste them between transposing and non-transposing staves. With chord symbols it is admittedly a messier workaround than in music w/o chord symbols. I routinely use this workaround in situations w/o chord symbols like 18th cent. scores where the horns and trumpets lack key sigs even when their transposing key does not match the key of the music.

I also routinely used this workaround in the bad old days before Finale had chromatic transposition.

But, of course, Finale should fix the problem. I'm just offering an alternative that might make life easier in the interim.

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Robert Patterson

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