On Oct 16, 2004, at 5:31 PM, John Howell wrote:

At 11:27 AM -0700 10/16/04, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
On Oct 16, 2004, at 1:44 AM, dhbailey wrote:

Classical music is music you have to get dressed up all fancy to go sit in a concert hall for, where you don't applaud after the solos, don't applaud everytime the music stops, don't get up and dance, where they don't serve beer while it's being played,

I know it's begging the issue, but the old Boston Pops programs (in which "classical" music was played), were accompanied by the serving of beer. And, as I think about it, and re-beg my comment of a couple of days ago, when that orchestra switched from "classical" to pop, one of the percussionists always sat down at a trap set and provided the unvarying, pop beat which, I still believe, is one of the identifiers of pop music. And that makes me think of those recordings which came out several years ago of Mozart and Beethoven symphonies with the disco sound (ugh) ... the only significant difference between their "classical" renditions and the ever so popular recordings was the introduction of the previously mentioned rhythm section (and the typical octave-leaping, disco, bass line). I know, I know, Bolero ...

Well, when the Swingle Singers were at their peak, scatting Bach and Mozart very effectively, Ward Swingle would introduce their drummer and bass player as "our 9th and 10th voices." And at about the same time, in the mid-60s, a young pianist fresh out of Juilliard, Peter Nero, made quite a profitable splash for a while by taking pop songs and playing them "in the style of," or taking classical pieces and playing them "in the style of," or combining both pop and classical pieces in very creative ways. One that I still remember is a combination of Tchaikovsky's 5/4 waltz with Rodgers and Hart's (I think) "Dancing On the Ceiling" in the same 5/4 style. As i've said before, it's all music, and trying to pin down its classification as pop or classical is kind of futile if it's capable of being presented in a crossover or fusion setting that is artistically valid and musically convincing. Bach's music is virtually indestructible, and surprisingly enough it appears that the songs of Lennon and McCartney share that quality.


John


-Yep.

Dean

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