On 2 Jan 2005 at 14:11, Andrew Stiller wrote:

> On Dec 31, 2004, at 6:58 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > And in terms of orchestration, while [Schumann] made a few
> > elementary mistakes that anyone with an orchestration teacher would
> > have been trained *not* to make,
> 
> Such as what, for example? His orchestration tends to be stodgy and
> plain, certainly, but "elementary mistakes?" I'd be interested to know
> of any.

I'm recalling a trumpet problem, where he wrote some non-playable 
notes in one of the symphonies, but in a quick leaf through the 
scores, can't find it.

> I heard a wonderful recording recently of the 4th Sym. w. Barenboim
> and I forget wh. European orch. that has made me rethink even the
> "stodgy" label. Many details of the instrumental writing there made
> vivid sense to me in ways they never had before. And no, this wasn't
> the Mahler rescoring.

I've never had a problem with the "thickness" of Schumann's 
orchestration, something Brahms can be equally accurately "accused" 
of. I've also never understood the trope about the supposed 
inadequacy of the orchestrations of Chopin's piano concertos -- they 
are what they are, which is piano pieces with fairly minimal 
orchestral accompaniment, but so far as I can see, no egregious 
orchestration problems.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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