> A few times now I've had a stubborn problem where, after deleting
> bars, a weird time signature that is very difficult to get rid of
> appears. It seems it's 0/0 time (!!) although the second number does
> not appear.
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Know what it is?? An easy way to get rid
> of it???
> > Simon Troup > Digital Music Art

here's a pic of the problem ...

http://www.digitalmusicart.com/0_time_sig.jpghttp://www.digitalmusicart.com/0_time_sig.jpg

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The "0 over nothing" is exactly the strange-looking time signature I get at the end of my problem files that I reported back in December. This has happened in three files in FinWin 2005a after I attempt to insert measures internally.

The clearest example, in a short file: I threw together a quickie arrangement of "Rudolph the Red Nosed .. etc" for my orchestra's brass trio plus percussionist very quickly, with the help of a midi file I found on the WWW. After we played it at a school the next morning, I realized that (Duh) the kids singing along were used to augmentation at the end. That night, for the rest of our gigs this week, I attempted to:

A)  Use the Mass Edit tool to double two bars of note values. or :
B)  Use the Measure tool to insert two measures.

In both cases, this message come up:
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"This file appears to be damaged. One or more measure records are missing between measures 47 and 64. Finale can now create new measures to fill in the missing measures, but the file will remain damaged and should be salvaged as soon as possible. Do you want Finale to replace the missing measure records?"
(Buttons for Yes or No)
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This score was only 44 measures long, yet Finale tells me "One or more measure records are missing between measures 47 and 64"!


Pressing "no" only gets a temporary reprieve, as the question keeps returning. Pressing "yes" either gets some phantom measures at the end of the piece that MAY be possible to remove, if I am lucky, or at worst, sets Finale in an endless loop that can only be ended by a three-finger salute (Ctrl-Alt-Delete, end program)

In all three occurances of this problem, Finale says there are problems in measures that do not exist, and then creates new phantom measures (five hundred of them, added to my two-hundred measure orchestral score) at the end that are difficult to delete. For this "Rudolph" file, I am now unable to show or print a complete score, no matter what I do. For the other files with this problem, I have been able to press "no" then select and delete the offending phantom measures, thank God, but it happens every time I insert measures.

In my reply from MakeMusic, it was suggested that he problem lay in the midi file I got from the Internet, but this does not explain the problems in the two files I created from scratch (One file was started in 2004, the other I don't recall - I think it was created in 2005.)

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra

Allen Fisher wrote:

All--

I suspect the 0/0 time sig is related to the message, which we know about
and are looking into.

Allen


On 1/13/05 9:26 PM, "Simon Troup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:



I'll try and pin down exactly where it happens here.

Do you also get a file corruption message when trying to insert bars?

What do I do, log it with MM via support? Did you do the same?

Simon Troup Digital Music Art



Ah-hah!  The second appearance!  I couldn't get anyone here, or at
MakeMusic, to acknowledge this strange behavior when I reported it a
month ago!!!

Mine (FinWin 2005a) happens when I insert measures into certain files
- I get the same strange looking time sig at the end of the file, and
seem to have many phantom bars following the strange-looking time
sig.

I can usually delete the extra bars, by selecting one bar in front of
the phantom bar through the end.





A few times now I've had a stubborn problem where, after deleting
bars, a weird time signature that is very difficult to get rid of
appears. It seems it's 0/0 time (!!) although the second number does
not appear.

Has anyone else seen this? Know what it is?? An easy way to get rid
of it???

Simon Troup Digital Music Art


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