But of course this very thing produced Cage himself. Cage didn't posit an alternate but an inverse. His way was never free but rather, full enslavement. Without the legacy of culture we would be as every other living thing -- in perpetual present. His early stuff was great! Less intellect-- more intuition. Maybe sometime in the future we will need the opposite formula-- but not today.

Jerry


On 6-Feb-05, at 6:41 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:



David W. Fenton wrote:

To those who assert that music is a purely cultural phenomenon, I
would point out that this idea has been put to the test, quite
rigorously, by John Cage, who insisted that any sounds or combination
of sounds could be construed as music if one merely had the will to do
so, and spent 40 years of his life composing music on precisely that
principle. Was this music as successful (moving, exciting, attractive)
as other musics? Could other music, composed on the same principle, be
more successful?


No, and no.
You have scientific proof that Cage was wrong?

I think there's been a thorough misunderstanding of Cage, here (and not on David's part) - we are indoctrinated into tonality virtually from birth. We are surrounded by one type of music, to the almost complete exclusion of others. What we go through from our earliest experiences parallels what Cage describes.
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