As I said- I only got a brief glimpse, but the pictured cimbasso appears to fit the bill! Thanks for all interest.
Years ago, (early 60's?)in North Germany I went for a late walk one evening and was amazed to see, coming down a mountain road, a huge- 100 plus, marching band of ALL trombones. From slide trumpets to the biggest bass troms I've ever seen. It seems it was an annual festival attended by people from all over Europe, and I saw a 'rehearsal' march. Sadly I had to leave the town next morning and never saw the actual performance. Those were the days!! Cheers Keith in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Monday, 7 March 2005 10:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Finale] Bass Trom There are a few varieties of contrabass trombone that I know of. One is pitched in BBb, has a double slide (four tubes instead of two), a single F trigger, and is played with a mouthpiece close to the size of a tuba mouthpiece (makes sense, as the tessitura is so similar. The model I am familiar with is made by Mirafon. This is the type that is played by Phil Teele on Toshiko Akiyoshi's contrabass trombone feature "I Ain't Gonna Ask No More." Another is pitched in F, with a single slide played with an extension (or not, if you have long arms like me), and often a valve lowering it a fourth. This instrument might seem similar to the bass trombone in G (hey, it's only a tone difference!), but the bore is more like the BBb contrabass (rather than the G bass, whose bore is close to a regular bass trombone) and sounds accordingly. Then there is the cimbasso, which is kind of like a valve contrabass trombone. There doesn't appear to be a lot of standardisation with this instrument, but they are commonly pitched in F or Eb, and often have four to six valves, no hand slide. The configurations vary as well, from a flat-out valve trombone look to more of a euphonium-with-a-trombone-bell type of set-up. They often have pegs to support them, as they are so heavy, and it very well may have been this that you saw. This is the first page turned up by Google http://www.wcwband.co.uk/cimbasso.htm so you might recognize the instrument from the photo. Christopher On Mar 7, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi Keith, > > There is such a thing as a contrabass trombone. One of the players in > Maria Schneider's band plays it on her new record, so I suspect that's > what you saw. > > - Darcy > ----- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Brooklyn, NY > > > On 07 Mar 2005, at 3:44 AM, Keith Helgesen wrote: > >> Just watched a pay-TV programme of a concert called Bocelli Statue of >> Liberty Concert, from NJ Liberty State Park, featuring Bocelli >> (obviously), two sopranos-, one of whom (long hair) had the most >> grating portamente ever, and the New Jersey Symph. No date was given, >> but I suspect about 2000. � yes, folks TV programmes really are up to >> date here in OZ. >> >> � >> >> Anyway- my question.� It could have been a trick of perspective, but >> I think not. >> >> �Looking from over the conductor�s shoulder, one could see what >> appeared to be a massive Bass Trombone. The final curve appeared to >> have a width of about a foot! Never saw, or heard it played, but I�m >> sure I saw it correctly. >> >> � >> >> Anyone shed any light on this huge horn? What was it used in? What is >> it pitched in? Triggers? Valves? It appeared to be a �sit-down� only >> model. >> >> � >> >> Puzzled, Cheers, Keith in OZ. >> >> � >> >> Keith Helgesen. >> >> Director of Music, Canberra City Band. >> >> Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 >> >> Private Mob 0417-042171 >> >> � >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 4/03/2005 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 4/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 4/03/2005 _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
