Andrew Stiller wrote:
In any case, where's the first downbeat of Beethoven 5? If it's impossible to determine, then what should be notated?
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This reminds me of a point RE that symphony: it's earliest listeners would have had no idea, upon hearing the opening notes, whether the piece was going to be in major or minor mode--and they probably would have assumed the former. The definitive turning to the dark side a few bars in must have been a deliberate effect on B's part, but it's impossible to hear that today, because we know in advance what's coming.
Spot on, and related to the point I was hinting at with my question - those who've answered that the downbeat 'obviously' comes on the quaver rest can only say so with such conviction because they've seen it in print.
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