On 23 Mar 2005 at 14:50, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

> Phil Daley / 05.3.23 / 02:30 PM wrote:
> 
> >It will stay that way as long as Mac has a minuscule % of the market
> >space.
> 
> I am sorry.  It might be my English problem, but I don't understand
> your point of this post.
> 
> By the way, you should understand the problem on this subject is
> VBScript. . . .

No, it isn't.

> . . . It only affects to Mac side on M$Word Macro Virus.  Just to
> be clear, you can not write AppleScript and/or shell script virus that
> runs without operators knowledge.

Phil, as usual, has managed to muddy the waters by screwing up the 
definitions under discussion. Spyware and viruses are two completely 
separate issues. 

Spyware vectors are completely different from virus vectors, and 
almost always involve uninformed consent to get themselves installed. 
A common one is the IE Javascript dialog that says "Spyware detected! 
Do you want to remove it? YES/NO" and if you click YES it *installs* 
new spyware.

Browsers like FireFox are immune to this because the pop-up dialog 
can't run (by default FireFox blocks OnOpen javascripts), and even if 
it did run, the spyware that is installed is almost always ActiveX-
based, and ActiveX doesn't run in FireFox (thankfully).

But these kinds of exploits *could* be designed to run on Mac 
browsers because of the fact that many of them install only because 
the user gives consent to install them (almost always without knowing 
or understanding that they've "consented").

> To bring this to on-topic, I want AppleScriptable Finale!

If AppleScript can write to the file system, it will end up just as 
vulnerable as VBScript, and could become a vector for virus 
infections, should someone choose to write them.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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