On Apr 15, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Michael Cook wrote:
Andrew, can you tell me what edition of Brahms 4 you have and where the 1st bassoon part is written with ledger lines below the tenor clef?
Kalmus. The bn1 part dips below the tenor staff (just barely--no ledger lines) in the slow mvt., m. 69--admittedly, that's the only place.
Now, as for the cello. I took Schoenberg's _Variations for Orchestra_ off the shelf as a test case and find the vc. descending below the tenor staff at m. 386. I expect that the vast majority of such exceptional excursions would be in divisis (as here) or in multiple stops. Interestingly enough, the same piece sends the vc. below the *treble* staff in two other places--as low as the Bb below middle C.
Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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