On Jul 20, 2005, at 7:57 AM, LEE DENGLER wrote:

I have a problem with some lyric hyphens not being centered between syllables. This happens only after I've gone into ADJUST SYLLABLES and manually moved one or both of the syllables either left or right. This is very annoying and I can not find a solution for it. There is no way that I know of to manually adjust the position of the hyphen. This seems like a bug to me. Has anyone else had this problem?

Inability to do much of anything with the lyric hyphen has been one of my main gripes for years, though I get the impression that hardly anyone else cares much. I want to have a lot more attributes I can adjust -- including a global horizontal offset, a vertical offset, and an addend to the distance apart the two syllables have to be before the hyphen kicks in. I'd also like to be able to set the font/size/etc and character for the hyphen character. And of course I'd like to be able to type a real hyphen in a lyric that isn't treated as a lyric hyphen -- something which can be done in Windows using the non-hyphen hyphen character but isn't readily available in most Mac fonts. (The manual tells you to use an en dash, which is NOT the same.)

Re your centering problem, you don't say how far off it is. If the centering is way off, I don't know what the problem is. If it's just a little bit off, in my experience ALL lyric hyphens are slightly uncentered, presumably something having to do with the font. The computer thinks it's centered, but it actually sits too close to certain letters, kind of like a kerning issue. It's particularly noticeable in close quarters where the hyphen only barely fits.

Up to 2k2, which I'm still using, there's nothing you can do about it short of kludging the entire hyphen with an expression (which I've occasionally resorted to). That was before they introduced "smart hyphens", so I don't know if it's any better now.

mdl

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