David,

HALLELUJAH!  At least someone understands what I am getting at.

Many thanks for the kind suggestions you put forth in your previous email. Constructive help is so much nicer than sniping. I shall now go forth and put them into practice.

In my own defence, I would like to explain that when I received the new software on Thursday I was experiencing a problem with my computer. I could not access the manual. So, I was unable to study just what was involved in setting up GPO. I still haven't had the time to do so. But later on today I shall have the time.

Once again, Many thanks,

John


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Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale2006 and GPO


Darcy James Argue wrote:


John, they are exactly the same instruments you heard on the Finale website. If the "unpleasant coloration" was absent there, then you ought not to have anything to complain about. Have you tried the sounds *in context* (i.e., in an ensemble), with HP and Ambience Reverb on?

I think John's point is that he is totally baffled about how to make his files sound like the demo files. He's not saying that the GPO sounds are bad, just that he can't seem to get them to sound good on his computer. That's why one would hope MakeMusic would put the Finale files from which their demos were derived (they were derived from Finale files and not sequences played into a different application, no?) from up somewhere for us to download and to see exactly what settings were used to get those terrific sounding demos. For many of us, simply switching from soundfont to GPO produces very little improvement. We need to know the steps necessary to achieve the same quality as the demos display.

Which brings up the question as to why the Ambience Reverb doesn't give us Room Sizes to choose from, at least on the Windows side of things? Is that something to be expected in the maintenance release as well?




My Altec Lansing speakers provide very good sound, so the blame cannot be laid there. The demos I have tried from the internet all sound good, or at least as good as would satisfy me if I could get mine to sound as good. So, in view of the comments from members of the list who say how superior the GPO sounds are


They are definitely superior to the Finale sound font. Clearly, they are not superior to professional orchestral sample libraries costing thousands of dollars. You have to be realistic in your expectations.


The following quotes, from the Garritan web-site:

"the highest quality collection of orchestral instruments ever sampled" (doesn't say "in this price range" it says "EVER") "Acclaimed as "the most significant sample-based instrument library ever to be produced", GPO has won more awards than any other orchestral library"
"it is the quality of the instruments that drives this package"

are certainly quotes which lead me to believe it superior to East-West or Vienna Symphony libraries. Either that or Garritan was successful in keeping those libraries from whatever competitions or organizations handed out those awards. The first line I quoted was from Garritan's own ad-copy on the web-site. Okay, I can understand their hyperbole about their own product being a bit of a stretch, but the other two quotes are from outside sources.

Those quotes are not exactly what I would expect for a product you describe as not being "superior to professional orchestral sample libraries costing thousands of dollars" -- it sure sounds as somebody thinks they're the best thing since A440! And that somebody is the company who is building up our expectations -- expectations you are telling us we need to be more realistic about.

And that's one major aspect of this whole Finale2006 upgrade debacle -- both MakeMusic and Garritan make it seem as if we will be able easily and without having to sell the farm to buy hardware upgrades to get fantastic sounding representations of our scores.

We just want to know how so we can get back to engraving and composing and be done with all this. Nobody ever mentioned "large learning curve" in the publicity. :-o








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