On 31 Jul 2005, at 10:31 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

My mind is dizzy from going through 500 posts that appeared in my absence since last Wednesday, so please forgive me if I have misunderstood or overlooked something, but I seem to remember reading that there is the anticipation of an issue of smooth integration of the full versions of GPO and GPO Jazz library - that they will not integrate as transparently as the GPO "lite" that comes with 2006. Well, I just had a phone conversation with Gary in which he assured me that this would not be the case, and that that is what has delayed the release of GPO Jazz. They are working on that now and expect to achieve the same level of transparency that exists with the included sounds. Please don't blame me if that turns out not to be the case, but the conversation was reassuring.

Hey Chuck,

Right now, there is no possible way that the HP in Fin2006 can possibly handle all the keyswitches for the brass mutes included in the GPO Jazz/Big Band edition. I have talked about this with Robert PiƩchaud, the creator of Human Playback. At this point, HP just doesn't catch jazz mutes like "cup," "harmon," "bucket," etc. Full, automatic HP integration with the Jazz/Big Band set will have to wait until Fin2007 (or, possibly, a maintenance upgrade of Fin2006).

I heard some of the jazz samples on a site that Gary put up, and they sound OK to me,

They *do* sound pretty good. The saxophones sound much better than I expected. Overall, I expect I will be happy with this library.

 except for the drum set with sticks,

Yes, I agree that is completely awful.

and I think that is a result of Gary hiring a drummer whose idea of tuning drums is to avoid all resemblance to the sound of any classic jazz drummer - Max, Philly Joe, Elvin, Roy Haynes - whoever. The drums are totally dead - in the style of some rock drummers (my un-favorites). Go here and check it out and let Gary know, if you agree (while there's still time to do something about this. I know someone here in Bellingham, easily accessible to Gary, who could provide perfectly acceptable jazz drum sounds for Gary to record, if he wants to correct this.)

Unfortunately, I doubt that Gary has the time to correct this for release. If he does, that would be my #1 priority. The drums with sticks are easily the weakest part of the demos I heard. Regardless, I would like to add my strongest possible support for sampling an actual jazz drummer for the first upgrade to the Jazz/GPO Edition. You are quite right, the drummer they sampled is unacceptable and a bit of an embarrassment. You are wrong, though -- he doesn't sound like a rock drummer. He sounds like a BAD drummer. (Phil Selway, from Radiohead, one of my favorite rock drummers, doesn't tune his drums ANYTHING like the guy they sampled.)

The drum kit with brushes sounds acceptable to me.

Yeah, the "GPO drummer" does sound better on brushes. But we need mallets, too! (These will be included in the update, I hope!)

The bass sounds are OK - for samples. The second set is my bass, and too thin sounding for my taste, but we are going to work on getting some more fundamental into the spectral balance.

You are right, the second bass is the only acceptable one, and it is (thankfully!) identifiable as you. I am glad you are working on the balance, though -- it does need work.

I am only a part of this as much as Gary is interested in including me. He does ask my opinion, so there's some effect, but final decisions are not mine to make.

I hope Gary gives your opinions the weight they deserve! You are an incredible asset to this project, and I hope he realizes how lucky he is that you are willing to lend your personal credibility to his library.

I am trying to get what I'd like to use, and I'm hoping that might satisfy the needs of others too.

I'm pretty sure anything that passes muster by your ears will be fine by everyone else.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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