At 7:32 AM -0400 10/23/05, dhbailey wrote:

I think the problems of bass clarinets and the use of clefs is exacerbated by the fact that many (most?) professional bass clarinetists use instruments with extended range down to low C, making it possible to run into that extra ledger line below the staff.

But the typical amateur bass clarinetist is only using an instrument with one half-step lower than the typical soprano clarinet, so the bass clarinet part written with those folks in mind doesn't go any lower than they already know how to play, so reading those low ledger lines shouldn't be any problem in those sorts of parts.

There's also another factor that no one has mentioned. Bass clarinet is one thing, but EEb contra-alto is another. Most educational arrangements do not have separate parts for the EEb contra. Therefore, EEb players are stuck reading a concert pitch bass clef part as a normal thing--either bassoon or tuba, I would assume, or even bari sax in treble clef. When I include EEb and BBb contra parts in an arrangement, I write them transposed as for a normal member of the clarinet family, but I always wonder whether a player will be able to read those parts. (Our community band does not have an EEb contra, but it does occasionally have a BBb contra, who reads the bass clarinet part sounding down an octave, and our bass sax player prefers to read from tuba parts. Our high schools often have an EEb but not a BBb, and our college wind ensemble has both available.)

As I have complained on occasion, a disadvantage of scoring for concert band is the lack of a standard instrumentarium, and the consequent need for thick doubling.

John


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