Hi Bill et al,
Perhaps Chris, Darcy, Greg Hamilton, and some others can help to come
up with a set of a few jazz articulations that most of us need. I
use few of them; a fall-off, a scoop up to pitch, and one that
indicates a drop and rise in pitch. Something for a brass shake
would also be useful to many. That's all I'd need, but there are
undoubtedly others who have different requirements. I am using
shapes from the Jazz Font articulations for these at the moment, and
it is true that they seem overly thick and bold for the rest of the
Maestro Font that I am using, but I can live with them. If you
(Bill) can improve on them - with advice from thoughtful people here,
I'm sure many would appreciate it.
I don't use the Jazz font - with the exception of those
articulations, but many do. I am sympathetic to the desire to
achieve a look that is more informal, perhaps more spontaneous
looking than Maestro and Engraver, but I have yet to find a
"handwritten" style font that I like. (I looked at the Ash Font and
even bought a copy. I prefer it to Jazz, but not enough to use it
regularly.) There is something about high quality hand copying that
I love, and I got used to beautiful work from Bill Rowen, who did
most of the copying for the National Jazz Ensemble, and from whom I
learned a great deal about music preparation. I don't think we'd
have fired a good copyist whose style looked like the Jazz Font, but
we'd surely have continued to look for the kind of elegant work that
Bill Rowen produced for us.
Chuck
On Oct 22, 2005, at 9:22 PM, bill wrote:
Hi Darcy and others,
No one I know uses or likes the Jazz fonts, so I had no idea that
there was so much interest in this. Is it possible for you or
someone to send me a pdf scan of what you think is ideal? Also,
Chuck Israels and Greg Hamilton expressed interest in a jazz
articulation font that is not as "loud" as the jazz font but nicer
than improvising from an existing text font or those awful Finale
"shapes" that are pretty useless from an Automatic Music Spacing
aspect. I am not a jazzer, so I don't really have a good
vocabulary of those and any input would be appreciated, as I think
that font as well would be useful to all.
I will be able to start work on one or both at the end of November,
and any/all input is welcome.
Bill Duncan
On Oct 22, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Bill,
I don't think Chris meant that he wanted you to copy JazzChord
exactly -- which would might involve copyright issues (although I
don't know -- there are obviously lots of font knock-off versions
out there). I think he just meant that he would be interested in
a handwritten-looking version of ChordSuf, which would not involve
any copyright issues at all. [Nobody owns the copyright on any
and all handwritten-style chord fonts!]
Given your expertise, I'm sure you could come up with a
handwritten-looking chord font that is far superior to anything
else out there -- and if you're looking for inspiration, check out
Sher Music Co's "The Standards Real Book" -- which is by far the
nicest-looking "handwritten" chord font I've seen. It is
(unfortunately) not for sale. But if you could come up with
something of similar quality, that included the ease-of-use of
ChordSuf, I'm sure it would sell like gangbusters.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 22 Oct 2005, at 3:48 PM, bill wrote:
Hi Christopher,
I would be happy to except that MakeMusic would have to sanction
it because
of their copyright issues. I have had problems with them in the
past, and
they have absolutely no interest (that I know of) in the work I
have done
with my chord font set. Possibly you and other interested
parties could
"petition" MM to allow me to do it, as I seem to carry little
weight with
them on my own.
Bill Duncan
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Subject: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?
Bill Duncan,
Glad to see you on the list, where I can publicly buttonhole you
and
ask you outright: Any chance of you coming up with a chord
suffix font
like your brilliant, ingenious ChordSuf, but that matches more
closely
with the JazzFont, to replace the inadequate JazzCord? I, for one,
would be an enthusiastic client, and I hope that some of the other
listers who (try to) use JazzFont in their work will support me on
this.
Then, in an ideal world, MakeMusic will pay you big bucks to
include it
in the next version of Finale...
Hopefully,
Christopher
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