On 5 Nov 2005 at 22:36, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

> David W. Fenton / 2005/11/05 / 08:00 PM wrote:
> 
> >Again, I don't see any purpose in reformatting. Just install a fresh
> >copy of Windows in a new folder, alongside the old one.
> 
> On my Macs, I like zero-formatting to map out bad sectors.  It's just
> my habit.  But since Win2KJP install CD won't see C: which is NTFS, I
> can't install the new Win2KJP next to the old one either.

Well, I don't believe that's necessary on Windows disks. You should 
be able to run a full disk check by opening Windows Explorer, right 
clicking on the C: driver, choosing PROPERTIES and then the TOOLS 
tabl, and then CHECK NOW. Check off both choices and then schedule 
the job for the next boot. It will run a full check for bad sectors, 
move all readable data out of them and then mark them bad. This 
should be just as good as a full reformat.

I'd do this before installing the new Windows.

And after installation, let the drive defrag overnight (actually, you 
usually need to defrag about 8 times to get the drive completely 
defragmented; I don't know why this is -- I tend to do start a defrag 
and go in the other room to watch TV, then check back periodically 
and restart a new defrag each time it completes). Then defrag again 
after you remove the old Windows installation. And running the disk 
check again at that point wouldn't be a terribly idea.

NTFS is pretty good with self-healing though. I've never had problems 
with NTFS like I had with FAT or FAT32, even though I was much more 
diligent with disk maintenance under FAT.

> >If the NTFS volume doesn't mount, that suggests that you have some
> >other boot loader or partition management software on the machine,
> >which can definitely mess things up.
> 
> Shoot.  Is this what it's about?  I have always partitioned with
> PQMagic for many, many years.  Is this the source of my problem?  Is
> there any way to remedy this at this point?  By the way, I once bought
> SystemCommander and used it once for my beloved trusty Win95JP, but it
> really broke boot sector to the point unrepeatable.  And it's been so
> difficult to have multiple bootable Wintel especially before the birth
> of NTLoader, which still can screw things up after restore.  I am too
> used to Mac which can be booted from pretty much anything (.. but
> floppy, of course :-) .. What I mean is, if it were Mac here, I would
> had booted off a FW drive to format and install Thinkpad's internal
> drive without going through any of this frustration.

I don't think this is a Windows issue. I think you've got some weird 
partition management software that has to be loaded to mount the 
partition, and that's not running when you boot from the CD (since 
it's part of the MBR of the active partition on the hard drive rather 
than the CD). These kinds of partition management utilities usually 
have some way of getting round that, where you can load the drivers 
from floppy or something. If you can get to the Windows Command 
Console you should be able to run a program from the floppy disk, but 
I don't know how to launch the command console from a Windows CD 
(only from the system boot partition).

This ought to be a common scenario so PQMagic (PowerQuest 
PartionMagic? If it's that, it's a very good product that I use 
myself, though not the boot manager) ought to provide instructions on 
how to do what you need to do, and you can then probably wipe the 
drive entirely, as you prefer.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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