On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:39 AM, John Bell wrote:
Chuck Israels wrote:
If Garritan Jazz is not "there," how are you loading instruments.
If you do load them wherever you are finding the editor window,
are you remembering to tweak the mod wheel?
Thanks Chuck, I was indeed neglecting to tweak the mod wheel. When
I open the application "Garritan Jazz" (and tweak the mod wheel) I
can get the J&BB sounds. But in Finale, when I go to Midi>Native
Instruments AU Setup, I have two choices: Finale GPO, and Garritan
Personal Orchestra.
Seems like a silly thing to have to do, but that's the way things are
working at the moment.
As to the problem of not finding the Jazz Library in the AU setup,
something sounds strange to me. Is there a possibility that Garritan
Jazz is stored in a place that NI cannot find it? When you installed
it, did it end up in the applications folder? That's where Garritan
Jazz & Big Band and Garritan Jazz Big Band Library are on my
computer, and NI AU setup finds it just fine. I have removed Finale
GPO, since I have the full version, but I doubt if that's an issue.
I don't know enough about this to advise you beyond suggesting that
you put those folders where they are working for me.
Can you get a score to play these sounds, or are you just getting
them out of the virtual keyboard in the editor?
Interim report:
I am having moderate success with Garritan JABB playback - just
learning about it. I experience stuttering playback when there is
significant polyphony along with thick orchestration, and that's a
problem I'm trying to solve. Loading the "lite" versions of
instruments and turning off reverb don't entirely solve the problem,
and I'm not even sure if those things make any difference on my setup.
There is no question in my mind that these sounds are a noticeable
improvement over things I've tried in the past, and that I like
having them available. The ability to play back something that
resembles the timbre of instruments is helpful in sorting out
textural decisions - most of which I have been able to make out of my
memory of real music in the past. Still, it's reassuring and
occasionally lets me hear something I might have missed. And the
jazz sounds are a better reminder of reality than the orchestra
sounds I was using to substitute for them. Nevertheless, the
resemblance to reasonably expressive human players remains distant,
and there's a danger in assuming that what will be heard with a band
will be reliably predicted by this tool.
I hesitate to get involved in attempting to make improvements beyond
this level of fairly decent "stick figure" sketch. I'm waiting for
Tom Hopkins to complete a version of one of my pieces using a
sequencer and playing in each line in order to get the right timing
and nuance. When it's done, I'm sure it will far surpass what is
possible with these sounds when they are driven by notation software,
but I'm not sure what use they will be when all that trouble is
required to produce what will still be pretty pale in comparison with
real players.
I am curious, and happy to be involved in having some small influence
on this technological tool, but I wish everyone had a band to try
things with, and I think the availability of this relatively easy
imitation of a solution to that problem will discourage folks from
making the effort to organize musicians and play their music.
There's a social toll to be paid for this ease.
I was lucky when I started learning to write music in New York and
had some of the best players in the world who generously made
themselves available as my guinea pigs.
Chuck
John
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