At 11:02 AM -0500 1/28/06, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 at 7:17, dhbailey wrote:

 There are many more composers over the past century than just
 Schoenberg.  And audiences respond very favorably to many of them, if
 they're just given a chance to hear the music.

While what you say is certainly true, there's an unintended knock at
Schoenberg (intended to represent what the audiences think, not what
David Bailey thinks), and I think Schoenberg definitely gets a bum
rap.

If you actually known any significant body of his work, you'd
recognize that there's an enormous variety of styles and sounds, even
in the serial works, and the reputation for severity is completely
undeserved, in my opinion. While I wouldn't say that Schoenberg's
music overall is "easily accessible," it ain't that tough.

David (F) makes an important point. Schoenberg was a superb composer long before he adopted pantonality, atonality, or serialism, and he remained a superb composer in spite of his adoption of serial techniques. Much the same can be said of Berg, whose music transcends his compositional techniques. The excerpts I have heard of "Wozzeck" are chillingly powerful and make Wagner look like a beginner. I doubt that Webern was ever in the same class as either of them.

But the academics throughout most of the 20th century who attempted to shove serial techniques down the public's throat (and not so incidentally down the throats of their own students!) and who lacked some or all of the superb musicianship of those composers are the ones who lost contemporary audiences and gave "modern music" a bad name. (Academic: A composer who earns a living teaching because s/he cannot write music that earns a living, but argues that any music that sells is a sellout.) IMHO it is the unrelenting sameness of constant tension throughout a piece without relief or relaxation that makes the music unpleasant to listen to, not serial technique per se. Unchanging ANYTHING is simply the hallmark of a composer who has nothing interesting to say.

My own specialization is in early music, so I have not sampled the great majority of 20th century composers whose music might appeal to me, let alone 21st century. Much of what I do hear I like very much, but I seldom have any great desire to hear it a second time.

John


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