On Apr 2, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Phil Daley wrote:

At 4/1/2006 08:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>But the requirement Phil is placing on these pieces is completely
>arbitrary and if applied honestly would eliminate a lot of the works
>he considers to be music.

I agree that improvisation is not notatable.

But, if an entire piece is improvisation, it is not music, it is performance art.


Well, that's just plain wrong.

What kind of extremely narrow definition of music do you have that excludes improvisation from music? Or non-pitched elements? Or difficult-to-notate elements? Or inconsistently-reproducible-in-performance elements?

I must confess that Mark's earlier observation – saying "this is not music" is really saying "I don't like this music" – is starting to sound more and more true.

Christopher


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