On Sep 18, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Hey Chuck,

The volume settings in instrument list, studio view, and the mixer are all linked and all do the same thing.

That's what I thought.


They also override any settings in the Kontakt Player.

OK, good to know.

I find it easiest to set the volume in the instrument list,

Me too.

but you can use whichever of these three methods you prefer.

The problem is (as you'll soon discover), there is no one setting for JABB instruments that works well in all situations. For some passages at some dynamic markings, JABB trumpets may need to be set to a volume twice that of the trombones. For passages at a contrasting dynamic level, the best settings may be the inverse of that. This is something Gary and Tom need to fix on their end -- meanwhile, you can use the Instrument List, Studio View or the Mixer (whichever you prefer) to select the settings that give the best overall result for your piece.

You and I have discussed this off list, and we agree that this is a stumbling block in the overall usefulness of the JABB library. I thought that bringing it up here would alert other users about the issue, so that those who might be more naive about real jazz band sounds could listen for this anomaly and adjust for it. JABB is a good tool for me. There are fewer obstacles between the notation and my accurate imagination and assessment of my writing when I use these sounds. It brings me closer to hearing the results of my writing than either just piano sounds or other sample libraries, but the balances really should be set better, especially for less experienced writers. We agree on this, and I imagine Gary and Tom will address the issue.

Thanks,

Chuck






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On 18 Sep 2006, at 1:18 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy, Simon et al,

Just bought a Radeon 9200, ($140) yet to be installed. There is an issue with accessing the power supply wires that go to the CD/ DVD drive in order to tap into power for Radeon card, and I just haven't worked up the ambition to burrow around inside the Mac yet. Maybe later today.

But here's another question for Darcy, who is au courant on matters of Garritan JABB balance.

There are myriad places to set the volume of instruments: Finale's instrument list; Finale's Mixer (seems to be another "window" into what I imagine to be the same setting); the individual instrument volume setting in the Kontact Player window, and whatever effect the mod wheel in the Kontact player has after you tweak it when you do the setup (not much effect, as far as I can see).

So here's the problem: trombone section levels are set to 64 (in the instrument list and mixer), and the trumpets, in JABB's balance, are overpowered by the trombones. This does not resemble normal acoustic conditions with good players, so the question is, where to make the change. If I go in to the instrument list/mixer controls, the trumpet volume needs to be nearly doubled to match the trombones. Is that the right place to make the change, or is there a better method, like going in to the Kontact Player window?

In any case, this is an problem of the out of the box JABB balance, and it needs to be addressed by Gary Garritan and Tom Hopkins, so that it more closely resembles a natural balance without tweaking, but meanwhile, what is the best way to approach making an adjustment to this imbalance?

Darcy?

TIA

Chuck


On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

The Radeon 9800 is an AGP card. This would be a good option if Chuck wanted to replace his main video card (instead of supplementing it with a PCI card), especially if he can find one for such a low price. I haven't checked eBay lately, but my recollection is that Mac-compatible 9800's generally go for much more than that stateside.

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On 18 Sep 2006, at 7:06 AM, Simon Troup wrote:

On 9/14/06, Chuck Israels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm working on a large score and it is time to get a card that will
allow rotation of my 24" monitor into portrait mode.

Hi Chuck

I recently bought two 20 inch TFT rotatable monitors. They were
expensive enough so I bought a second hand Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Special
Edition G5 Card on eBay! It was about £80 which is what - $140?

It works brilliantly. The control panels are found in System Prefs > Preference Panes > ATI and you just click whether you want 90 degrees CW, 90 degrees CCW or 180 degrees for each monitor. It also works with either VGA or DVI. Actually it has an ADC and a DVI connector but it
comes with a DVI to VGA connector, and Br Bott sell an ADC to VGA
connector if you need VGA.

Anyway, this probably isn't the cheapest option even secondhand, but just to say that ATI versavision (rotation software) is brilliant and
rotation in general is a real eye opener. I'm generally using one
monitor in front of me in landscape and one to the left in portrait.
This means I can have a score open in two views - the detail in
landscape in front of me where I do actual work and zoom about - and a complete page overview in portrait mode to the left which updates live
with the work I'm doing in the other monitor.

Can't say anything about longevity, but for quality I can vouch for
the LG2000C, rotatable, 1600x1200, DVI & VGA, 3 year on site swap out warranty. I paid about £350 each, you can get far cheaper if you don't need the HiRes. Anyone thinking of going for rotation would do well to
put them on a shortlist.

--
Simon Troup
Digital Music Art

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