On 1 Oct 2006 at 11:23, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> > On 1 Oct 2006 at 10:03, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I'll take repairing permissions (which is a cron job that most unix
> >> systems run weekly as well) over the virus/security hole of the
> >> day/week that Microsoft has any day.
> >>     
> >
> > What are you talking about? I and my clients have not had a virus or
> > worm for years. Of course, we don't use Microsoft's brower or email
> > clients, but that's been a no-brainer for a decade for email clients
> > (since they have always been substandard for Internet email), and
> > for the last 5 years or so for the browser (since Mozilla started
> > being usable c. 2001).
> 
> Yes, but IE was still considered the STANDARD in 2001.

Its security flaws were manifest to anyone paying attention long 
before that point (the whole ActiveX thing was a disaster waiting to 
happen, and guess what? It did)

> > I don't even have full-time virus monitoring on my home PC and have
> > not had for nearly 10 years, and haven't had a single virus/worm.
> > Part of that is due to proper firewalling, which many Windows user
> > were not aware of, but which nowadays they get by default (with
> > WinXP SP2, and with most broadband services providing NAT routers in
> > their cable/DSL modems), the other part is due to sensible choice of
> > email clients (ones that don't auto-execute content). I do have
> > AVG's free AV program installed, but rarely have to use it.
> >
> > People who have problems with viruses are probably not using up-to-
> > date versions of Windows or sensible Internet connection procedures.
> >
> > Last of all, damaged permissions are pretty serious. There is no
> > reason that aan OS should stop properly-designed security system
> > should have its ACLs damaged (or changed) on a regular basis.
> > Something is wrong with the design of OS X's security subsystem if
> > it has to be constantly repaired
>
> No, it does not have it's ACLs damaged or changed on a regular basis.
> Stop the FUD.

Well, sorry. I don't have first-hand knowledge -- I"m just relating 
my understanding, which I admit may be wrong.

> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html is a good start on your path
> towards enlightenment. 

Ah, I see. OS X is an old-fashioned UNIX system that doesn't have 
ACLs, just UNIX-style creator/group/world permissions. Pardon me for 
assuming that OS X was in the modern world in regard to security.

Makes it even more mystifying as to why the permissions get out of 
whack. I couldn't find any explanations as to why it happens in any 
of the links I followed from that useful URL above.

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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