On 12 Oct 2006 at 23:18, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

> At 05:50 PM 10/12/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >Where have you been Dennis? This has been the case since the 
> >introduction of machine-based authorization in WinXP back in 2001 or
> >2002 (whenever XP came out). 
> 
> My family's computers continue to function flawlessly because no one
> else touches their configuration or installs software. It's so cool
> when my wife comes home from the hospital to her lowly 300MHz Celeron
> box and says she can't stand how slow their brand new WinXP computers
> are.

But don't you *every* have to install anything, hardware or software? 
In Win9x, this entails many more reboots than on recent NT-based 
versions of Windows (Win2K and WinXP). All sorts of configuration 
changes can be made without reboots, which is substantially more 
convenient than having to wait for a machine to restart.

> >I have to say that 
> >Win9x is horrid in comparison to a more modern version of Windows.
> >There is just no contest at all -- the NT-based versions of Windows
> >are far, far easier to use and configure and administer.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned, no. There are so many more steps to make XP
> work, it's terribly slow and loaded down with junk. It took me weeks
> to get the stuff cleared off the laptop, all the slow eye candy and
> animations scoured out, to the point that my fancy 2005 Intel
> processor laptop with XP Pro now works as fast as my 98SE system and
> its overclocked AMD processor from 2001.
> 
> I know you and Johannes think XP is a peach. 

I can't speak for Johannes, but I hate XP. My preferred version of 
Windows is Windows 2000. But I can easily make XP workable.

> I think it stinks. It has
> added nothing -- absolutely nothing -- to my computing 'experience'
> except obscurity. Programs that are flakey in Win98SE (like Finale
> 2006) are still flakey in XP. WinXP locks up and programs crash. And
> all its famed uptime means nothing when it gets a little slower each
> day and still needs rebooting to have a reliable audio session.

I haven't seen that with XP or any other version of NT.

> There's not one single thing I like about XP.

The stability means nothing to you?

[]

> >legally, if you had an OEM Win98 installed on 
> >your PC, you aren't supposed to be moving it to a different PC. Read
> >the EULA -- it's in there. The only difference with the authorization
> > is that the EULA is now enforced.
> 
> I didn't have an OEM Win98 installed on my desktops. I've paid for
> installations and upgrades since Win3.1/DOS6.

Well, if you did the same with WinXP, you wouldn't have the problems 
described in the article with the disallowing of moving an OEM 
Windows installation to a new computer.

> >I have never encountered any problems with WinXP authorization 
> >because I don't believe in upgrading hardware.
> 
> Maybe your customers have the money.

They aren't spending much money. The key is *where* they spend it. 
They spend it at the beginning and leave the machine alone once it's 
up and running. This means it lasts 5 years, easily, with no 
tweaking, no upgrades. Some of my clients keep their machines as long 
as 7 years before purchasing a new one. After the initial cost, there 
is no ongoing cost, which is cheaper than constant upgrades.

> I don't. I've been a freelance
> writer and composer since 1979, and there are months where my income
> is almost nothing, especially after the tech crash of 2001. I can't
> buy machines and peripherals when my gross is $540 like it was in
> September, and $40 so far halfway through October. That's why I keep
> my hardware and software tuned up and incrementally upgraded. I am
> still running two 100% reliable parallel port printers, for example,
> and a lot of legacy hardware that has artistic uses (like the
> three-pass scanner. which can create amazing effects by moving the
> original during the scan). This is not an office, it's a creative
> studio. It has to work to my vision, not some corporate bookkeeping
> paradigm a la John Hodgman (the Mac ads have got that right).

NT-based Windows is vastly superior to Win9x. You just don't know it.

[]

> So no, David, I haven't really been paying attention to Microsoft for
> a few years. I haven't needed to.

You're missing out on a much more pleasant computing experience, in 
my opinion. Since I've been using Win2K, life is much, much easier. I 
can leave my PC on for months without rebooting, and the OS never 
crashes, ever. I can add and remove hardware, configure and 
reconfigure networking components, and none of it requires a reboot. 
Ill-behaved applications may crash, but they don't bother anything 
else running on the machine.

I, too, was able to keep Win9x running relatively smoothly because I 
cared for it properly. But NT-based Windows is so much easier to keep 
running and can handle so much more that there is simply no contest.

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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