Christopher, Mark et al,

I don't know how to get this right all the time. I start with left alignment for chords, but I nudge many to the left, and things are never really beautiful without more adjustment than I am willing to devote time to make. I usually settle for a general alignment and no crashes. I don't work with lyrics often, though I have similar problems and often adjust syllables. I'd be screaming about it, if I thought I was smart enough to come up with programmable parameters for consistently good alignment. Since I am not that smart about this, and I see many variables, I tend to think it would be difficult to accomplish. People smarter about turning visual placement into math may feel differently.

Chuck


On Oct 15, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

Mark,

Thanks for a great overview about lyric spacing. One thing you didn't mention at all is how the rhythmic value of the note might affect spacing, particularly if there is a long syllable on a short note value, like "through" on a sixteenth. I seem to run into this an awful lot, and I can NEVER get a measure with this combination in it to look right, no matter what I do. Possibly this is because I don't really know what takes precedence over what.


On Oct 15, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:


- I routinely nudged to the right any syllable ending with a comma or period. This falls under the rubric of mathematical centering vs visual centering. Understandably, Finale's basic algorithm is to figure the width of the text and center it exactly. But to the eye, the text's center of gravity is with the letters, not the punctuation mark, so the lyric looks lopsided to the left. To my eye, the period or comma does carry some weight, so I wouldn't center the letters alone, either, but it's closer to that than it is to the default.

This is analogous to chord symbol spacing as well. The Finale options are centred or left-aligned. Centred is correct only for very short chord symbols, like C7. Left-aligned makes a chord symbol like F#m7 look too far to the right, but centred is horrible on that. I thought perhaps (to my eye) that the ROOT should be centred, and let the entire suffix flow off to the right. So C in C7 would be centred, also F# would centred at the point halfway between the left side of the F and the right side of the sharp. Or maybe there is some other alignment point I am missing. I am certainly not the first one to deal with this problem.

I know Darcy Argue is constantly tweaking his chord alignments. Darcy, if you are reading this, what do you look at when you nudge chord symbols?

Christopher


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