On Dec 11, 2006, at 10:47 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote:

don't remember ever coming across this problem before, is this new to finale 2007?

http://newmusicnotation./TEMPFILES/cross-staff_tremoli.pdf

there is a portion of the stem missing in the left example; this i can hide by changing the freeze stem direction and adjusting the beam, or by lengthening the stem using the stem-beam connection tool (special tools). the right example i can't resolve, there is a small bit of the stem remaining where the beams have been separated from the stem to make the tremolo. in the past i am sure this didn't happen, the stem would only extend to the 8th note beam, not to the 16th (etc.) beams.

This is definitely not a new problem. I can confirm it goes back at least as far as v2002, and I think it has always been that way.

It is not related to the tremolo plug-in. It has to do with how the reverse stem tool is applied when combined with cross-staffing. In certain situations where notes with two or more beams (whether tremolo or not) are cross-staffed and reverse-stemmed, the chunk of stem that aligns with the beams will be drawn independently of the actual stem, and it can't be affected by any of the special tools. The reason you're able to fix your first example and not your second is because in the first example you only want to add an extra line to connect to the piece of false-stem; in the second you're trying to make it go away, which as far as I know is not possible.

The good news is there's a (partial) way around the problem. As you might know, there are always two possible ways to do a cross-stem reverse-stem. One of them creates the unremovable false-stem on one side and the other creates it on the other. So long as you don't want to remove BOTH of them (ie, to make it so neither stem extends to where the beams are), you can pick your method to match your needs.

I'm not sure if I can diagnose your exact situation from just the PDF, but I think you've coded it so that the notes are upstem and you've checked the upper right box in reverse stem tool. What you want in this situation is for the notes to be downstem and you check the lower left box in reverse stem tool. Do that, and I think your problem goes away.

mdl

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