On 10.01.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:

I would have to look at the context of that. If it's the case that it's a thematic aspect of the piece (using the stroke as an accent), i.e., having the strokes + slurs in that figure, then I'd include it. But if this is a variant, where all other times the stroke is there and there's no slur, then I'd definitely *not* put it in. The only place where I provide contradictory editorial readings is for bowings (which Johannes probably wouldn't like, either).

No, and certainly I wouldn't want editorial bowings by a non-violinist. In at least 90% of all cases they are nothing but an obstruction when reading from the part.

I am not following your arguement for the strokes. There is no reason why one could automatically assume that they are meant to be there (unless of course the exact same passage occurs at another place with the strokes present, in which case there is some reason to add them as editorial markings, although even then I can't see in what way this would actually help any performer). I also can't see why these strokes would make a sightread performance any better. I agree that with some sources it is desirable to add editorial markings to help a sight-read or under-rehearsed performance. But in this particular case I cannot see the reasons for it. Again, this is partly because I don't know the rest of the piece.

I'm conflicted on this. When preparing my editions of my piano quartets/quintets I want to have the greatest chance of getting a good performance with minimal rehearsal, so I put in editorial markings to insure consistent results on first reading. Yes, that can lock the performers into one interpretation, but for my purposes, that's OK.

For publication, I'd probably remove many of the editorial additions.

You mean that "your editions" are not for publication? So what is your arguement? Kim is doing this for publication, not for a particular performer.

This is the old "performer's edition vs. critical edition" argument. I don't mind editorial additions that are clearly marked, as long as they are not confusing. Whether or not Kim's present example would be confusing depends on how the figure is handled elsewhere (i.e., what the source of the editorial stroke is).


Confusing is one thing, cluttering another. I find the strokes in brackets extremely cluttering, and I don't see any real justification for adding them, at least not from the minimal context we were given.

The problem with such editorial markings is that most performers read them anyway, whether they are in brackets or not. I do, too, or at least they influence my playing. That's why I frequently tipp-ex anything editorial out.

Johannes

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