On 1/15/07, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As I believe Johannes or Kim said (in reference to the Haydn
oratorios), these kinds of gargantuan performances in the 18th
century were very often benefit concerts.

Johannes brought this up, but you're right-- the Haydn concerts were
benefits; and most of the musicians donated their services.  There
were no huge concerts of the Messiah during Handel's lifetime either.
That happened later in the 1780s;  and Haydn's exposure to these huge
performances of Handel had a factor in his composing The Creation and
The Seasons.

So again, for the average Joe Q. Public peasant in Austria (or
Germany, or Italy, or France, et al) in 1700s, the chances he could
swing on up to the ole concert hall to catch up on the latest tunes
were pretty nil. (Yah, I know about church services).


Kim Patrick Clow
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