On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:26 AM, dhbailey wrote:

masao iikura wrote:
hi all,
am trying to add a triangle on a staff with woodblock and whistle, but could not find a triangle in text expression play back patch menu other than individual triangle staff in the initial wizard's inst menu. am I making some mistakes?
thank you.

Typically you wouldn't use a patch change to accomplish this, since the percussion channel (10) has many many different sounds, including triangle.

Most such mixed percussion staves would have each instrument assigned to a different line or space, and defined when you set the staff up in the first place. Of course, this involves digging into one of the still untamed (and still unchanged after zillions of upgrades) areas of the seamy underbelly of Finale. That is the editing of the percussion maps to get the sounds you want to be heard when you place the notes you want on the lines/spaces you want.

This is true, except the seamy part. 8-)



Editing the percussion maps requires equal parts of black magic, voodoo, perspiration, dumb luck, perseverance, utter brilliance, never-say-die spirit, knowledge of Finale.


Oh, come on! It's not that hard!

Assuming that you are NOT using Garritan (though it isn't that different!):
Staff Tool, open up Staff Attributes for your percussion staff.
Beside Notation Style, click Select.
If you have selected any of the maps that DON'T say GPO, then the rest is easy. Click Edit. In the left hand part of the window, scroll down to MIDI note 81, or A5. This is open triangle, as played back though General Midi. Select it.
There is probably no name and no note head. We can change that.
Type in a name. (triangle?) This is only to help you identify it, as Finale doesn't care what the name is here. Playback note. If you are using GM playback, then 81, or A5, is right for an open triangle. Garritan will be different. We want a staff position. Drag it up to where you want it. Typical is 4th space (staff position 9 in that window), though you can make it wherever you like. We need a closed notehead. Do you want an ordinary notehead, or a triangular one? Depending on what font is selected for the staff, you will have to click Closed Notehead>Select and find the notehead you want. In JazzPerc (which I happen to have open right now) slot 49 is a triangle and 207 is a regular notehead. Repeat for open notehead (half or whole notes). Slot 33 (triangle) or 250 (halfnote) will do nicely for me. If you never write a half or whole note value, don't bother filling this one in. Now for the most important step, and the one that everyone screws up. Under Notes to Use For Drum Set (or whatever the name of your map is) CHECK THE BOX THAT SAYS "HIGHLIGHTED NOTE". If you don't do this, then all the previous stuff will be useless.

OK your way back to the score.
Now every time you want a triangle, using Speedy Entry enter MIDI note 81 (A5) that's the A above the treble staff. It will show up and playback as a triangle, the way you defined it. If you are using Simple Entry, then I suggest defining the note you are going to enter as a triangle, like E4 instead of A5. Playback STILL has to be A5, though.

If you would have had trouble finding which note plays back as a triangle (it doesn't seem to be documented in Finale) then use my GM Perc Map cheat sheet, which I will send as a PDF free to anyone who asks.




But once you've gotten it edited properly, you will be able to simply put the triangle notes on the defined line or space, and then a simple text expression without any playback defined will work fine, to tell the player to use the triangle.

Yes, the text cue is important for the player. Repeat as needed.

Christopher



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