Raymond Horton wrote:
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Do I need her permission to use her versions of these old, traditional tunes?


Two of her homemade CDs which she sells are labeled: "copywrite (sic) 19xx" (no circle c). A third CD is more commercial looking, but I recall it as similarly mislabeled (I can't locate it right now). A cassette is not labeled Copyright at all. Most of my needs are met by the home-made CDs and cassette (she keeps repeating the same traditional songs, with minor variations, and adding originals in which I am not interested).


I remember learning that recorded works are not copyright-able, only scores are. Is that still the case? If not, then these recordings are her arrangements. If so, they have to be considered PD. I know for a fact that she does not have scores, does not read music, because she mentioned she has treasured notebooks with the words to all of these songs.


The other, older recordings (not hers) have most of these same tunes, but hers are more melismatic. I would like to be able to draw from all of them.


I do not want to rip her off. I had intended to write her a letter, spelling everything out, but she called me yesterday to tell me my check made it there ok, and I made the mistake of trying to ask her on the phone, only confusing her. (As with all Amish/former Amish, English is not her first language. She thought a composer paints pictures.) My request worried her, ("I don't want to give up any of my rights") and she is going to have her "English" husband call me on Tuesday.

I will not likely make much, if any money, from this work, so I can't really offer any cash. I could offer them like 5% or 10% of the profits, telling them (a) there might not be any, and (b) they will have to trust me.


The recordings may not be copyrighted, but that just means that you can make copies of the recordings. All the copyrights in the music itself still stand, even if the recording itself isn't copyrighted.

In other words, you could probably duplicate the tapes and not pay her a penny as artist, but you would owe her the mechanical reproduction royalties as she is the composer of the music recorded on them.

Aaron Copland "borrowed" pretty wholeheartedly from a Library of Congress recording of Bonaparte's Retreat for Hoedown, and I've never seen any credits given to the fiddler who made the recording -- I had the great good fortune to hear the recording on the radio, and one single person playing the fiddle played all the notes that Copland took a whole orchestra to play (and they have problems!). So if he could do that, you might be able to do the same. However the morality of it would dictate that you come to some understanding with the woman. And these days the legality would dictate some sort of legal contract with her also. When Copland borrowed the music for Hoedown, music was only copyrighted when it was written down and registered with the Library of Congress and each copy of it had to bear the copyright notice, so what Copland did was legal even if not really moral.

As for you making money on this project, you may not make much from future sales, but you've already made some money, so maybe you could offer a one-time payment and a percentage of future profits.

It's a sticky situation, especially now that you've opened the door to the payment of royalties. Is there any way from the various yodels you've heard that you could take a folk song and create your own version without stepping on her music? At the very least, whatever contract you sign with her should stipulate that aside from your quotation of her yodels in your work, she retains all rights to her music.

Good luck -- this is where an attorney might be a good idea.


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David H. Bailey
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