Darcy,

I don't disagree with trying to avoid this, and maybe I should have kept my mouth (typing fingers) shut. It is an unusual situation and not at all normal practice for me. I have only used it when there seemed to be real space constraints. (I know - paper is relatively cheap compared to rehearsal time.)

Chuck


On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Hey Chuck,

Normally, only one set of numbers, but I have encountered a few situations where I have found it useful (to me) to use two. If I have an AABA, 32 measure repeated solo section that, for reasons of space saving, has its first A section written as 8 measures with a repeat (with or without 1st and 2nd endings), I will use two sets of numbers for that A section, even though it is only written once.

While I understand why you might want to use this space-saving notation, most copyists would avoid it because it contains nested repeats, which are to be avoided whenever possible. The usual thing to do is to write out both A sections, even if they are identical.

I have also saved space on one part where there is a simple repeat of a solo section, but other instruments have a variety of entrances throughout the two choruses. Those parts that require 64 measures to appear on the page are numbered consecutively, while the simple solo section can comfortably, even more efficiently, have 32 measures with two sets of numbers. (Can't do that with linked parts!) Assuming conventional form with the solo starting at 33, it is then sufficiently clear to say, "Take it from 41, or 73."

Again, the overwhelming majority of copyists would not choose this solution. If the backgrounds are such that they cannot be handled with "Play 2nd X only" indications, then we would write out the two choruses consecutively, for band AND soloist, so that everyone has the same roadmap.

it is then sufficiently clear to say, "Take it from 41, or 73."

YMMV, of course, but to me, this does not seem clear at all! Imagine there's an impending trainwreck on a gig and you need to shout out: "41! Or 73!" [grin]

I'm just not comfortable with a score where different instruments have different roadmaps, or different measure numbers refer to the same point in time (except in certain asynchronous situations like Dennis described). I have to say, I just don't understand the desire to want to make measure numbers delineate form and phrasing. We already have so many other tools much better suited to that purpose -- rehearsal letters, double bars, the physical layout of the page, etc. To my mind, trying to make measure numbers do double duty as (A) unique identifiers of measures on the page, and (B) form/phrasing cues often leads to confusion. Why not just let measure numbers be measure numbers?

Cheers,

- Darcy
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