On 10 Apr 2007 at 20:11, John Howell wrote:

> At 5:50 PM -0400 4/10/07, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >
> >And even that doesn't seem to me to be that much of an issue. Does a
> >member of a major orchestra really arrive at rehearsal with not even
> >5 minutes to spare before getting ready for the baton to be raised?
> 
> Hi, David.  The members of a major orchestra routinely show up ON THE
> PREMISES 30 minutes before call time, are unpacked and on stage to
> warm up 15 minutes before, and are already tuned and ready to start 5
> minutes before.

This is not any different from my viol consort. We meet at 7pm and 
start rehearsing at 7:30. But one can be a little bit late and still 
be in place, tuned up and ready to go by 7:30pm. Two minutes is not 
going to make a difference to the group at all.

> NO professional is going to piss off a conductor or
> an orchestra manager by being late.  It's just part of professional
> protocol, otherwise stated as "If you're early you're on time, and if
> you're on time you're late!"  And professional conductors show respect
> for their union musicians by starting rehearsal as the second hand
> passes the 12, and ending rehearsal the same, as Robert Shaw always
> did.
> 
> In other words, it may not be a 9 to 5 job, but a team player is on
> just as tight a schedule as a customer service rep, even though it
> might LOOK as if she has plenty of time.

But surely if you're using public transportation and 30 minutes 
before rehearsl is your on-time point, you'd make sure you left to 
allow enough time for transportation delays so that you'd often 
arrive 10-15 minutes earlier than that. 

In the DC Metro case, the station was the *destination* for most of 
the people passing through -- they were only steps away from their 
final destination, though perhaps some had to transfer to a bus. The 
point is that surely out of 1,097 people, surely some significant 
number of them was almost at their final destination, and had also 
left home early enough that they had the few minutes to spare that it 
would take to stop and "smell the roses" for 2 or 3 minutes.

> >But it seems to me that the law of averages ought to mean that out of
> >1,097 people there ought to be more than a few dozen who both
> >appreciate it and are in a position to express that appreciation.
> >What surprises me is how incredibly few those who liked it and showed
> >it actually were.
> 
> I would put it differently.  Since the incidence of attraction was NOT
> describable by a bell-curve, but was strongly biased toward
> indifference, this was NOT an example of "randomly normal human
> activity" and not subject to standard statistical analyses, which
> require a randomly chosen set of subjects.  Wrong hypothesis for the
> experiment, wrong tool to use for analysis, and very poor experimental
> design, whatever the excuses for it happened to be. Which is pretty
> much what people have been saying, in different words.

Well, I don't think you can say that. We know what people *did*, but 
we don't know under what conditions they made the decisions that did. 
Perhaps 50% of them had 2-3 minutes to spare, but of those 50% only 7 
stopped and listened for even 2-3 minutes.

Tonight I had the experience of hearing a musician in the subway 
whose music making I *hate*. I've heard him many times (he plays 
often in the passageways at the south end of the W. 4th station), and 
he is just PHENOMENALLY UNMUSICAL. This was after, hile waiting on 
the platform at 42nd Street this evening, I'd heard an alto 
saxophonist. At first I thought "wow! what a beautiful sound!" The 
sound *was* beautiful, very round and clean and pure, and with a very 
elegant jazz-style inegal (the kind the Baroque players I play with 
just don't *get*). But after listening a while, I realized he/she (I 
couldn't see the player -- it was somewhere in the station that I 
couldn't see) had *no* sense of harmony whatsoever. There was the 
*appearance* of harmony, with lots of ornamental notes applied to 
whatever melody was being played, but the implied harmony beneath it 
was just completely incoherent, with no direction or progression 
whatsoever. It was very annoying to hear such fine tone and technique 
and basic musicality thrown away on harmonically incoherent playing.

It reminded me of the kind of aimless Chopin-style improvizations I 
used to play for hours at the piano when I was 14.

Anyway, when I encountered the flute player on the way home I thought 
about the Joshua Bell thing and wondered if I should *tell* him that 
I hated his playing.

I didn't. :)

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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