On May 27, 2007, at 1:12 PM, John Howell wrote:

Case in point. I grew up 30 miles north of Seattle. If there was any defining ethnicity there it was scandinavian. Lutefisk and leftse were not consumed in quantity, but were sung about by such as Stan Boreson, and the nearby Smorgasbord was a real treat after church on Sunday.

Last time I spent several weeks' time there, big changes. No sign of scandinavian culture, but entire shopping centers where all the signage was in Korean without translation.

Sounds like Lynnwood, right? That's where I work. When I bring doughnuts, I buy them from a Korean shop a few blocks from the office.

Scandinavian culture still thrives in Ballard, and if you look carefully you can find signs of it in some neighborhoods in Edmonds. Probably elsewhere, too.

Now there have always been a good number of orientals in the Pacific Northwest (making it the only place my wife could buy shoes that fit!), but that kind of thing is self-ghettoization and really surprised me.

The self-segregating groups are generally the newer ones -- Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc. In contrast, Chinese, Japanese and Filipino are more integrated.

Some parts of the Pacific Northwest are more Asian than others. Tacoma expelled all its Chinese in the 1880s and has been the least Asian city on the West Coast ever since. I once read a serious argument suggesting that this was a key cause of why Seattle surpassed Tacoma as the dominant city of the Puget Sound. (I forget who it was. Dave Neiwert, maybe?)

mdl
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