On Jun 6, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:


On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:37 PM, John Howell wrote:

At 11:17 AM -0400 6/5/07, Christopher Smith wrote:

I WOULD like to see Trumpet in Eb in the instrument list. When I do orchestra transcriptions from the 19th C, there is a lot of Eb trumpet, and I got caught the first time.

But were these Eb alto, same pitch as the British brass band solo Eb cornet, or Eb basso, like the low F trumpet that was also common?


High Eb is what I meant, between the piccolo and the Bb in size, like the British Eb cornet. Very common instrument. I wouldn't call that pitch Eb alto, as I would reserve that name for the alto horn transposition.

For the tenor trumpet in Eb, see the Rite of Spring, where it has an important solo. I think this instrument scarcely exists anymore, tho. The last few performances of the Rite that I've seen have all used a Bb bass trumpet for this bit. The Eb tenor trp., BTW is the direct descendant of the single-shank slide trumpet of the 15th-18th cc.


For that matter, I don't see a piccolo trumpet in Bb in the instrument list either, only in A. Most of the players I know prefer to play the A when they can, but the Bb is common, too.

The instrument is also found in G, F, and (high) C. All these instruments were designed to play the 2nd Brandenburg Concerto, but the piccolo trp. (in whatever key) has since come into its own as an independent instrument. When I write for it (wh. is often) I call for a 4-valve instrument in Bb; the 4th valve takes the sounding range down to middle C, making the instrument more useable alongside regular trumpets.

Frankly, for MIDI purposes I see no point to having separate Bb and A piccolo-trp. sounds--esp. inasmuch as trumpeters notoriously use whatever instrument they feel like regardless of what the composer wrote.

Nor, for that matter, do I see much sense in attempting to differentiate D and Eb clarinet sounds--especially since we are talking about artificial *imitations* of these sounds in the first place. In order for such a distinction to be justifiable, the D midi-instrument would have to sound more like a real D clarinet than the latter does to a real Eb clarinet--and I don't believe that would ever be the case.



Clarinet in D would be good, too.

??????? Never seen one, and never seen a part for one. Where do you find it?

Mahler, Berlioz, among others. Late 19th C stuff. Yup, it's rare these days, but you see it in historical repertoire.

It is used extensively in the Rite of Spring. Also, it is worth noting that D seems to have been the preferred key for the earliest clarinets. Molter wrote a whole set of 6 clarinet concertos, all for the instrument in D.

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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