So we need to send for the calvary when the Rite comes up? Interesting theory. I remember the low F's in Agon. I assumed Strav just kept all the parts in C for simplicity, but knew the third player would play the part on a Bb, which is what happens in performance. Ravel (I remember the lick but forget which work) has similar writing down to low E for 3rd C trumpet. 'Splain that!

Any C or Bb trumpet can play a low F by extending the third valve slide a full half step, and changing fingerings for a few bars. This is described in the Arban's book. Not their fave technique, but they do it if they have to (a prominent note just before the end of _Zarathustra_ - low concert Eb [low C four leger lines and a space below the staff in the Eb trumpet parts] is generally played as a low F on Bb trumpets).

But an Eb alto trumpet likely may not have the tubing available in the third valve slide. I played one once, but don't remember - it probably did not. I know the Bb bass trumpet I have in my studio right now isn't close to having enough.


RBH


Andrew Stiller wrote:
The Rite of Spring Eb "bass trumpet" should be called alto. It is a double for the 5th C trumpet. But the part creates another problem, because Stravinsky exceeds the range, going down to the written low F (concert Ab) which is difficult or impossible to reach on an Eb instrument, and very low for a trumpet player indeed.

Stravinsky routinely takes trumpets down to the low F natural (he does it in Agon, frinstance), and I believe he had in mind the so-called German cavalry fingering, wherein the third valve is tuned a half step lower than usual.

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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