On Jul 3, 2007, at 2:47 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

Christopher Smith / 2007/07/03 / 02:06 AM wrote:

Then you WOULD call a C triad C5? And C2 would not have a G in it?
I'm sorry, but both these assertions are contrary to what most chord-
symbol reading musicians would agree with.

Oh you totally misunderstood me.  I said num val is the cut off point,
and forgot to say "when applied" :-)


OK, chalk it up to "spoke too fast,"


C triad doesn't have num val notation, and is out side of this debate.
And yes, C2 means C and D only. If you want C-D-G, it's a G sus4 on C.


I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Gsus4/C to C is ever so much more unwieldy to write than C2 to C, since the D to E suspension and resolution is so clearly what is happening.



(chuckle!) You don't believe in a Cadd4 chord? That is, C,E,F,G, with
no 7th?

I certainly do not deny any chord. My objection is what to call it. C- E-F-G is a FMaj9(Omit 3) chord, because when you play it, F is what you hear as the gravity center. As soon as you destroy E with added F, you
no longer hear C as the gravity center.

I don't believe that for a minute. While I agree that the top note of a P4 interval is easier to hear as the acoustic root of the interval, it doesn't mean it is the only way to hear it. If you have a copy of Dial and Oatts' "Brassworks" album available, listen to the intro and coda of the first track, "The Great Divide." Fadd4 ( or Fsus4add3 ) as a tonic chord ends the intro and the coda, and it definitely does not destroy F as the tonal centre, nor does the final chord sound uncomfortable at all. If you don't have it, I can send it to you privately. It's very convincing.

Christopher


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