David W. Fenton wrote:
On 24 Oct 2007 at 5:43, dhbailey wrote:

Looked at as a moral copyright issue, it's easy to view it as a boondoggle. Viewed in a much larger picture of economic issues, employment issues, tax issues, it's not as easy a decision -- the Government gets a lot of benefit from Disney's extended copyrights, as do the many thousands of Disney employees who continue to work for a corporation whose major asset continues to be protected.

But it comes at the expense of the public.

And the public as a whole doesn't seem to have any hired lobbyists to convince Congress that their side of things should be considered as well (well, maybe the EFF).


Playing devil's advocate here a la the Ragpicker (Danny Kaye in the movie) in the Madwoman of Chaillot -- what is the expense to the public? What money does it cost the public to let Disney keep the mouse under copyright? Instead, the thousands of employees of Disney corporation pay taxes on their share of the income that the mouse-copyright provides, they buy their houses from local realtors, they buy their groceries and gasoline and clothes and books and other stuff from local economies, go to local movie theaters to watch movies, etc. etc. etc. As Ragpicker says -- who benefits? And what expense is there to the public? That they can't make use of the mouse? Big deal! Is that really so bad? I'm sure the women in that movie would vote to convict anyway, just as they voted to convict the businessman, the preacher, the government minister, the russian politician.

Not playing devil's advocate anymore, originally, the U.S. Congress *was* the public's "lobbyists" -- the members of congress were supposed to look out for what was in the best interests of the citizens back home who elected them. It wasn't until Grant's presidency (if I remember my civics lessons correctly) that the lobbying began, and it was called that because the powers that be would gather at a certain hotel in D.C. and anybody who wanted to get their ear would try to speak with them in the lobby.

Gradually the lobbyists won out so that now the interests of the citizens (i.e. the "public" in "public domain") are of only minimal importance in the light of corporate campaign contributions which the incumbents need so badly so they can keep their cushy public-be-damned jobs.

Personally I think it costs the public a *lot* to have such lengthy copyright terms, just not in economic terms. I find it especially galling that a corporation which made so much of its fortunes on its presentations of public domain materials is so hell-bent on locking its own creations up forever so that no future disney-wannabe could build on them.

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David H. Bailey
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