At 1:40 PM -0500 11/9/07, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 8 Nov 2007 at 22:18, John Howell wrote:

 The fact is that Hildegard's music WAS
 notated, probably by the monks who ran the convent and in ranges
 suitable for men's voices, and as notated fits the extended range of
 female voices absolutely perfectly.  The lady knew what she was doing!

I think you're assigning a modern meaning to clefs, i.e., that they
indicate a single absolute pitch for the notated music. I don't
believe they actually worked that way -- they, in fact, worked
somewhat like key signatures do today in some contexts. Yes, they did
indicate the range of the melody, but not via a reference to an
absolute pitch standard.

Oh, completely agreed, of course. That's why many chants began with an incipit so the choir leader could establish the pitch, much like shape-note singing. Let's not forget those Holy Offices in the middle of the night!

But if she were using, say, a psaltery as a relative pitch standard (and I may be stretching things a bit because in the movie I use in my Survey of Music class she is shown playing a psaltery), the pitch level is probably close to what she intended, if not tied down to firmly fixed pitches.

But my comment was directed at the statement--I forget whose--that square notation was not in use in Hildegard's time.

John


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