At 1:19 AM -0400 3/26/08, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 24 Mar 2008 at 22:49, shirling & neueweise wrote:

 of the
 thousands of symphonies written up to the mid-late 1800s, how many
 still survive?

Of the thousands of orally composed songs of the troubadours, how
many survive today? Actually, NONE OF THEM. But survival says nothing
about anything other than SURVIVAL.

I have to disagree here. SOME trobador songs survive, despite the depredations of the Albegensian Crusade. MORE trouvère songs survive, because they were on the winning side. But if you mean that they survived in a very bare-bones notation that tells us absolutely nothing about how they might have been actually performed, then of course you're right. And that's true all the way up to and including Adam de la Halle (or Machaut, if you consider him the last of the trouvères). The work that Tom Binkley and Studio did on this repertoire was pretty much groundbreaking, and extremely important.


 part of this reason has to do wioth economics and
 politics, but part of it is because they were just shit and not worth
preserving :-P .

I think this is completely wrong. Anyone who has examined a
significant amount of a cross section of the music of a past period
finds some surprisingly interesting stuff in the "discard" pile.

Sure, and the Graupner that Kim Patrick is editing and the Muffat someone else is editing are REALLY interesting. And they should be, considering that Graupner was better thought of than was J.S. Bach! On the other hand, back in the '70s someone promoted a Romantic Festival in Indianapolis on the theory that there was gold among the unknown romantic music, and it turned out that there WERE good reasons why they were unknown!

John


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