Beethoven's 4-note motto is certainly persistent and insistent, but as it
is not constantly and unchangingly present it cannot be called an
ostinato.

ajr

> In very simplistic terms, is it fair to say that Beethoven's first 4
> notes of his 5th symphony are used as an ostinato? Or is it not
> repeated regularly enough? Still not sure how the term is applied or
> correctly used and my music dictionary is not much help.
> Don't mean to beat this to death.
>
> tim
>
>
> timothy key price
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>
>
> On Oct 13, 2008, at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Aha! Even this new Austinite says "oh-stee-NAH-toh" instead of
>> "aw-stin-AU-to." Don't know what the native speakers of Italian now
>> living
>> in our great state say.
>>
>> ajr
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> Car dealer in Texas? Where in TX is this?
>>>>
>>>> In addition to the terms listed below the English often called a
>>>> repetitive bass line a "ground bass," or simply a "ground." And if
>>>> it's
>>>> 12
>>>> bars it may very well be a blues bass!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Being from Austin, I would have thought the pun was obvious
>>> to you:  Ostinato is pronounced "Austin Auto."
>>>
>>> As for the ground bass, or simply "ground," if it's the same
>>> thing done over and over with exactly duplicating entries,
>>> is it a "Ground Round?"
>>>
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