To Stig's original point, I am dismayed at the bugginess in Fin08. (I have yet to use Fin09 for real work.)

I also have experienced the unreliability of Copy/Paste in Fin08, including the V2 rests problem. It also moves grace notes at the end of a bar to the beginning of the next when you copy them.

Fin08 does a terrible job of upgrading old files. I recently had to completely re-edit a piece from v2.6.3. The imported articulation definitions were completely trashed, the shape expressions were completely gone, and the underlying shapes were corrupt (crashed Finale when attempting to delete them). In the old days I could stage old files thru Fin02, which imported them pretty well, but Fin02 no longer runs on an Intel Mac. (Sheepshaver fails to run on my new Mac Pro, so I can't even try to run Finale on that.)

It was so bad that I opted not to use my original parts files and instead re-created them from scratch. With the new linked parts feature and productivity-enhancing plugins, I am sure it was faster to do so.

Which brings to the main reason I stay with Finale: 3rd party plugins. I have not seen or read anything that suggests to me Sibelius can achieve the efficiencies that Finale can with 3rd party plugins.

John Howell wrote:

The difference, as many have testified, is that the present Sibelius management seems to be dedicated to fixing problems that are brought to their attention, unlike the present MakeMusic management, which is not.

The only problem I have with this statement is, how are the Sibelius fixes delivered? I thought it was on a 3-yr development cycle. How can they deliver any timely fixes on that long of a cycle?

MM management certainly knows about most of the problems. Recently, though, they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. They screwed up Mass Copy in Fin08 (in the name of "fixing" it), and they screwed up expressions in Fin09. Lord knows what may be on their plate to screw up in the coming years.

I thought I would like the Fin08 replacement of Mass Copy with the Selection tool, but after using it for real work it drives me crazy. I can't tell you how many times I accidently drag an expression or smart shape when all I want to do is select a partial region.

Someone posted here that in Fin08 you program transposition metatools using ctrl-shift-<char>. That worked for me a little while, but now it has stopped. (The View menu lights up, but nothing else happens.) Anyone have any idea why?

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Robert Patterson

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