Beethoven 5 is usually considered the first appearance in a symphony of
trombones, contrabassoon, and piccolo. The contrabassoon mostly doubles
the string bass parts. When my community orchestra played Beethoven 5
years ago the contra was just left out, and not missed. Another community
orchestra gave the part to a tuba.

ajr

> Speaking of bassoons, I went to a symphony concert this weekend,
> wherein was performed Beethoven 5.  Included in the instrumentation
> was a Contra Bassoon, which was used only (as best I could see) in
> the last movement, doubling the Third Bone part.  I don't  have a
> score to the work, so can anyone tell me if that is a standard
> instrumentation, or an edition of which I've not heard before, or
> perhaps the conductor  just wanted the bass sound reinforced?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dean
>
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, January 19, 2009 2:39 pm, Robert Patterson wrote:
>>>> Can the down-arrowhead be an outline for a dotted-half value?
>>>
>>> I don't know. He only identifies the solid version of each symbol,
>>> which
>>> is typical throughout the book. Since the book is 1966 (DE) 1972
>>> (EN), I'd
>>> imagine things might have been clarified since.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>
>> Speaking as a bassoonist, I can assure you that any notation  you
>> use will be unfamiliar, and so *must* be accompanied with a verbal
>> instruction such as "reed only" or the like. As a composer, I would
>> use X-shaped noteheads, add the instruction "with reed only", and
>> place the notes on the middle line of the staff. On any subsequent
>> recurrences, I would shorten the instruction just to "reed." If I
>> wanted the buzz to vary in pitch, I would eliminate the staff lines
>> and place the various (X-shaped) noteheads at higher or lower
>> levels within the blank space.
>>
>> I would use this same notation for the oboe, and for clarinet/sax/
>> brass mouthpiece played alone (except of course that the
>> instruction would be "mouthpiece alone").
>>
>> Andrew Stiller
>> Kallisti Music Press
>> http://www.kallistimusic.com/
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> Canto ergo sum
>
> Dean M. Estabrook
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