On 23 Feb 2009 at 15:19, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:10 PM, David W. Fenton
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Kim, do you think that there should be no continuo realization here?
> 
> I'm not doing one at all- my editor/publisher will do one if a client asks
> for one, but until then, no.

I didn't mean in the edition -- I meant in performance. You need to 
determine that, I think, and indicate it in your edition, seems to me 
(even though you're not publishing a realization, you need to make it 
clear where the bass ought to be harmonized).

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> > And the corrected clefs indicate to me that it's not just us today
> > who could be confused by it.
> 
> I wondered if the copyist was just so used to doing a system with 4 part
> strings, he may have done the treble clefs purely out of habit, but I don't
> know about that, it certainly looks like he was confused too!

Well, to be fair, even Mozart has corrected clefs. Indeed, one of the 
great mysteries is found in the autograph of the G Minor Piano 
Quartet (K478), where it's clear that Mozart laid out the score with 
two treble-clef staves, then changed the second one to alto clef. The 
weird aspect of it is that, as per his usual practice, he puts clefs 
only on the first system of each movement, and laid out the first 
system of all three movements with two treble-clef staves at the top 
(with piano grand staff below, and bass on the bottom, as was his 
usual practice for piano chamber music, i.e., orchestral score order, 
as opposed to our modern chamber music order, with piano at the 
bottom). This would be explicable if the movements all began at the 
start of a bifolium, but they don't, so Faye Ferguson in her 
introduction to the facsimile suggests that perhaps this autograph 
was prepared from an early working MS (which would be why the number 
of pages needed would be known in advance). But, as she quite rightly 
observes, there's no evidence surviving in the viola part of 
adaptation from a putative original version for violin.

It's not like violas in piano quartets were unknown in 1787, when 
Mozart wrote his first piano quartet, so it is a puzzlement, indeed, 
and we'll probably never know the answer.

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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