On Jun 18, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Horace Brock wrote:
 The sharps were an afterthought, which is why they
are in a different plane from the white notes.

That may be the reason for the physical configuration of the keyboard, but I thought there were ergonomic reasons (even before anyone had thought of that term!). The configuration fits the fingers and thumb - so much so that the chromatic irregularity of the resulting patterns has not resulted in a re-design.

When I was in high school (1954), there was a girl who played an accordion with a symmetrical keyboard design (perfectly easy transposition!). It had two whole tone scales a half step apart (I'm having a hard time describing this without a drawing - it make take the proverbial thousand words). The part closest to the player started on C, the next "manual," situated about as far back as the spot where the beginning of the black keys would start, started on C# and was displaced a half key space to the right. The keys were colored black and white in the usual configuration but were all on the same plane. Then there was a third manual that was part of the first, the keys on the 1st and 3rd manual were one piece with parts cut out in which the second manual fit. This was necessary to accommodate the shape of the hand and fingers that needed to be able to move back and forth (closer and further away from the player, according to the required scale/chord shapes and how they fit in the hand). So this extra manual had to be added because, as beautifully logical as the configuration was for the way the brain understands things, every similar chord or scale retained its pattern, half step transpositions moved a half key (necessarily displacing either one manual closer or further away, depending on where you started), whole step transpositions merely shifted one key higher or lower, etc. It was visually logical and intellectually compelling and made a lasting impression, but no one uses it, because it does not fit the hand as well as the brain. I guess our brains are more adaptable than our bodies.

That took such along description, I wish there were a picture of it.

Chuck













BTW, my name is Horace Brock. I live in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and my
primary use of Finale is to transcribe my favorite music for brass
band. I'm currently working on Schubert's Unfinished Symphony, which
is working surprisingly well.

Horace

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:33:50 +1000, you wrote:

Hi Chuck and others.
I've found Finale list to be a terrifically helpful bunch of folk. I have not yet had a problem that someone else didn't know the solution to. And I
usually get interesting answers to non-Finale questions, too.

Can't resist asking somethingn that has intrigued me, that I have not yet
foundn the answer to:

I hope I'm not making an idiot of myself here!

It seems that the modes predate keyboards. If this is correct, why is it
that the standard modes
Ionian
Dorian
Phrygian
Lydian
Mixolydian
and
Aeolian

fit so beautifully on the white keys of our keyboards?

You would think that they had been derived from the keyboard, they sit there
so easily.

David McKay
www.aussiemusician.blogspot.com
Piano and Musicianship teacher
Father of four, two of whom eke out an existence [very enjoyable but
Spartan] as musicians, and grandfather of three terrific grandsons, and husband of Joan, who made it all possible and who is now joining me in using
Finale.




2009/6/18 Chuck Israels <[email protected]>

I'd be happy to know more about the people with whom I correspond. I visit websites whenever they are posted in the signatures. The URL below will tell more about my history than some might care to explore. Anyway, I'm happy to share it and curious about others. I've met some (including Jari Williamson on a trip that took me to Gothenburg a few years ago), and it has always been interesting. I've made a few friends and learned some things
about the folks who have been generous with their help.

Chuck



On Jun 17, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

Friends,

Back in December 2004 - January 2005, there was a thread devoted to bios,
who we were, and where we are. Is it time to revisit this thread?

Noel Stoutenburg
Finale User since version 2k;
Principal interests: choral music, chamber music, hymns.
Dallas, Texas.
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