Here's what I would do:

I often enter grace notes as real notes to avoid Finale's graceless spacing 
disasters. Doing that will be even more useful here.

So… make the grace note a real one,  and make the existing triplet as 3 in the 
space of 1 *eighth*. Break the beam between the "grace" and the triplet. Reduce 
the first notes's size with the % tool, adjust the stem (you might have to 
shorten it with the special tool) & add a slash (expression shape) if 
necessary. Now, the right hand won't line up, so you can either move the notes 
over with the special tool, or if you want the beat to line up forever without 
worry, insert a hidden 8th rest before the first note in the right hand as 
well, and make the first note fit into one 8th less. For example, in the second 
bar in that sample file, insert an 8th rest before the half note, and make a 
tuplet of the half note to be one half note in the space of a dotted quarter or 
3 eighths, choosing not to show the bracket and number.

Now you can put the clefs in.

Almost everything's a workaround in Finale. At least it keeps you thinkin'…

Rich

On Feb 27, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Paul Hayden wrote:
> FinMac09
> 
> <http://files.me.com/haydenp/emb3b1> PDF
> <http://files.me.com/haydenp/vutr1j> Finale file
> 
> Can you put only the left-hand's low notes (grace notes, A2 and E2 notes) in 
> the bass clef? The treble clef always insists on moving before (not just 
> after) the grace notes.
> 
> I do have a time-consuming kludge:
> 
> 1. Place the treble clef after the first triplet eighth.
> 2. Move the treble clef slightly to the left.
> 3. Use the Note Position Tool (Special Tools) to move that first eighth 
> _after_ the treble clef.
> 4. Use Speedy Entry to move those first eighth notes down so that they appear 
> to be the right pitches.
> Whew!
> 
> jef chippewa had a good solution but it involved moving the triplet eighths 
> into the right-hand staff:
> <http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/cross_staff.pdf>.
> 
> Paul Hayden
> 
> 
> Magnolia Music Press
> <www.paulhayden.com>
> Voice & Pre-arranged fax:  225-769-9604


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